If the cap goes up to $80-82 million next year, should we go after Tavares if he hits UFA?

[Menzinger]

Kessel has multiple PPG seasons under his belt, and near PPG performance in the playoffs.

It’s one thing to not like the guy but 8 million is/was fair market value for a player with that sort of offensive totals.

 

[Gary Nylund]

then you are being unreasonable and there's no point in discussing anything with you. there was no way on god's green earth that Dion Phaneuf at that time wasn't going to accept anything less than the standard raise that most people tend to get on their contracts in his stratosphere. his raise isn't even the league minimum on raises on the standard player contract.

if you want to say it wasn't a good idea for the Leafs to sign those deals, that's one thing, saying those deals are moronic period is not.

Agree 100%, the Kessel and Phaneuf deals we're market value at the time and completely predictable. In fact I remember quite clearly predicting the exact value of those contracts before they were agreed to. It's not that I'm some expert at predicting contracts, it's just that those contracts were so easy to predict and yes, exactly market value at the time.