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Burns is a solid defenseman, but his ranking should be about the same. In the 20s. Now O'Sullivan? Him and Bergeron should be high up.
Why?
Forget that the AHL was a tiny bit stronger last year? I bet so...He also has to keep that pace up to be .05 PPG less then Parise. Good luck on his part.Mr Bugg said:2005-06 Hamilton Bulldogs 29 GP, 10 G, 11 A, 21 Pts, 70 PIM
He's been Hamilton's best forward, and he's something like 0.05 less PPG than Parise in the AHL at the same age.
Forget that the AHL was a tiny bit stronger last year? I bet so...He also has to keep that pace up to be .05 PPG less then Parise. Good luck on his part.
Not too much more impressive then what Vrana is doing on a much weaker Albany team. You know, the devils 2nd round pick.Mr Bugg said:So what if it was? That's still pretty impressive of a guy you've... what is it you had to say about Jacques, Jason? I don't remember exactly.
MS said:Just the guys in the first round, because including everyone is really complicated:
1. Eric Staal
2. Dion Phaneuf
3. Nathan Horton
4. Jeff Carter
5. Thomas Vanek
6. Ryan Suter
7. Brent Seabrook
8. MA Fleury
9. Mike Richards
10. Dustin Brown
11. Braydon Coburn
12. Milan Michalek
13. Ryan Getzlaf
14. Corey Perry
15. Nikolai Zherdev
16. Eric Fehr
17. Zach Parise
18. Ryan Kesler
19. Brent Burns
20. Anthony Stewart
21. Jeff Tambellini
22. Steve Bernier
23. Patrick Eaves
24. Robert Nilsson
25. Andrei Kostitsyn
26. MA Pouliot
27. Mark Stuart
28. Brian Boyle
29. Shawn Belle
30. Hugh Jessiman
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Marcel the great! said:Kostytsin is still top3 talent in the 2003 draft, you guys WAIT and see, he's still 20 and just startig to have more confidence in himself...
Mr Bugg said:2005-06 Hamilton Bulldogs 29 GP, 10 G, 11 A, 21 Pts, 70 PIM
He's been Hamilton's best forward, and he's something like 0.05 less PPG than Parise in the AHL at the same age.
Herby said:That is by far the best list I have seen so far. The only problem I see with this list is Jeff Carter is rated too high, he should be in the 9-12 range with Richards, Brown and Michalek.
Really good looking list, and your right, its to complicated factoring in later rolunds.
KingPurpleDinosaur said:can you really use the age argument when you're comparing kostsyn to all the other players of the same exact age?
Drake1588 said:Heck of a draft. There are, seemingly, not a lot of poor picks in the first round.
One guy whose development is more gradual than many others is Eric Fehr, but he's excelled at every level. He was drafted #18 overall as a 35-goal scorer in the WHL at around 190 pounds. In the three years since the draft, he's put up:
2003-04: 50 goals, 34 assists, 84 points, WHL
2004-05: 59 goals, 52 assists, 111 points, WHL scoring champion
2005-06: Point-per-game scorer in the AHL to date.
He's now topping the scales at around 210 pounds, still growing into his optimal playing weight, it seems. This guy isn't the first out of the gate, by any stretch, but his production has remained of a high caliber at every level. Should be an NHL regular next season. So much talent in this draft... might take time to rank 'em all.
HABS-65 said:I can see that Kostitsyn is very underrated here , he is a good project , will be a top 10 scorer
BobbyClarkeFan16 said:Lots of slagging on here towards Nik Zherdev. I kind of feel for the guy because you can see that he clearly does not want to be in Columbus. There's absolutely 0 signs that they're going to get any better as a club. They've taken a huge step backwards this season. Blame the injuries to Nash all you want, but there is some good talent there in Columbus. They shouldn't be as bad as they are.
That being said, this should be the opportunity for Zherdev to step forward and become that elite winger that he can be. I think he's one of those Alex Daigle type players. All the talent in the world, but he isn't a leader and the environment he plays in is toxic to his abilities and mind set.
Now, as for the first pick of 2003, without a doubt, Dion Phaneuf. I really like Staal, but impact franchise defensemen are soooo hard to find. This guy has become the number 1 guy in Calgary and he just seems to get better and better every game he plays. Here's my list of what I think the draft redo would be:
1. Dion Phaneuf
2. Eric Staal
3. Brent Seabrook
4. Mike Richards
5. Thomas Vanek
6. Patrice Bergeron
7. Dustin Brown
8. Nathan Horton
9. Jeff Carter
10. Ryan Getzlaf
11. Ryan Suter
12. Corey Perry
13. Ryan Kesler
14. Patrick O'Sullivan
15. Danny Fritsche
16. Zach Parise
17. Jeff Tambellini
18. Braydon Coburn
19. Milan Michalek
20. Eric Fehr
21. Patrick Eaves
22. MA Pouliot
23. Nikolai Zherdev
24. MA Fleury
25. Mark Stuart
26. Shawn Belle
27. Steve Bernier
28. Danny Richmond
29. Shea Webber
30. Matt Carle
A little off the board I'll admit, but there are some really good players who are gonna make a lot of people regret not picking them in the first when they had the chance.
I also think that guys in the later part like Matt Carle and Shea Webber are going to be superstars. I know the term gets thrown around here like a hooker's pants go up and down on payday, but there's just a feeling watching these two that they are going to make a lot of people regret passing up on them.