Waived: Hurricanes waive Marcus Kruger and Josh Jooris (cleared & assigned to AHL)

[Kupo]

Did you or the ex get probed?

I am not at liberty to say.

 

[sheriff bart]

I am not at liberty to say.

 

[THall4]

He was AHL caliber when he left the Hawks and I haven't seen much of a difference in my viewings this year.

He's a shot sponge, but can't do much else. There's some value in that I suppose for a PK starved team, but he still has another year after this one at 3M+

Screams Oilers...but the contract tho...think he clears...wonder if the Canes would retain any salary on him if the Oilers sent back something.

 

[Kupo]

Thanks for obliterating Years and Years of therapy.

 

[sheriff bart]

Thanks for obliterating Years and Years of therapy.

That's what I'm here for.

 

[izzy]

kruger to the isles!!!

 

[garnetpalmetto]

Who is he playing with there? The whole situation seems strange to me. He never had a problem playing against 2nd lines before. Hell, the turning point in the 2015 Anaheim series was when his line started matching up with Kesler and Silfverberg. It just seems unrealistic that he fell off in one year.

Lately he's been on a line with Joakim Nordstrom and Lee Stempniak. Before Stempniak came back from injury it was often Brock McGinn.

 

[MinJaBen]

...and if Kruger is still the player he was in Chicago...

And there in lies the problem and why he was waived...he isn't.

 

[DJB]

Montreal probably claims Kruger

Instantly becomes Habs number 1 centre .

 

[Cotton]

As an Avs fan I'd love for them to claim Kruger. Avs are currently by far the worst faceoff team in the NHL (44.4%. 2nd worst in the league is 47.2%). I think faceoff stats are a little overrated but you need somebody to be able to play situationally and take those draws when it matters. Also, Colorado has no cap issues whatsoever. They may even struggle to reach the floor next year. They're currently playing Dom Toninato in that 4th line centre role and he's doing a good job as a rookie but bringing in Kruger would allow Toni to develop a little better for the rest of the year in the AHL.

If anything faceoff stats are underrated.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

If anything faceoff stats are underrated.

I disagree. I think it's important to have a couple of guys who can take them in key situations, but over the course of a season looking at a team's overall faceoff percentage means very little.

-Colorado were the second best faceoff team in the NHL last year. They were also the worst team the NHL has seen in like 25 years.
-Pittsburgh were the third worst faceoff team in the NHL last year. They won the Stanley Cup.
-Tampa Bay is the second worst faceoff team in the NHL this year. They are 1st in the NHL in points.
-Ottawa, Buffalo, Florida and Carolina are all currently top 10 NHL faceoff teams. All are in the bottom 10 in NHL standings.

 

[Cotton]

I disagree. I think it's important to have a couple of guys who can take them in key situations, but over the course of a season looking at a team's overall faceoff percentage means very little.

-Colorado were the second best faceoff team in the NHL last year. They were also the worst team the NHL has seen in like 25 years.
-Pittsburgh were the third worst faceoff team in the NHL last year. They won the Stanley Cup.
-Tampa Bay is the second worst faceoff team in the NHL this year. They are 1st in the NHL in points.
-Ottawa, Buffalo, Florida and Carolina are all currently top 10 NHL faceoff teams. All are in the bottom 10 in NHL standings.

I agree with a teams overal FO% not meaning much beyond being a positive or negative. But as a fan of a team who used to suck at it I can say it’s beyond frustrating watching opponents get a guaranteed possession off the dot, it’s cost us games. And was a big factor in our playoff series against Boston.

 

[The Great Weal]

Instantly becomes Habs number 1 centre .

At least we wouldnt have given them Bowers, and what looks like a top 5 pick next year only to remain awful.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I disagree. I think it's important to have a couple of guys who can take them in key situations, but over the course of a season looking at a team's overall faceoff percentage means very little.

-Colorado were the second best faceoff team in the NHL last year. They were also the worst team the NHL has seen in like 25 years.
-Pittsburgh were the third worst faceoff team in the NHL last year. They won the Stanley Cup.
-Tampa Bay is the second worst faceoff team in the NHL this year. They are 1st in the NHL in points.
-Ottawa, Buffalo, Florida and Carolina are all currently top 10 NHL faceoff teams. All are in the bottom 10 in NHL standings.

I do agree faceoffs aren't as important as some people imply, but your post is a bit of a misleading post. Yes, if you have some of the best players in the world (Crosby, Malkin, Kessel - Stamkos, Kucherov, Hedman) + good goaltending and good depth, face offs aren't that important. If you have shitty talent (Buffalo, Florida, Carolina), then obviously, face-offs aren't going to be the difference maker.

 

[garnetpalmetto]

Kruger and Jooris cleared

 

[DaveG]

Not a surprise. Krueger is likely going to be traded with some retention involved I'd imagine (Canes only have retention on Lack right now). Jooris isn't bad but he's replacement level. Likely going to finish the year in Charlotte then make a bit more then he would in the A in Europe next season.

 

[sheriff bart]

Kruger and Jooris cleared

No surprise to me. Those guys may be moved if other teams have injuries and need a replacement. Kruger will most likely take some salary retention.

edit: I think DaveG and I were barking up the same tree at the same time

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Kruger would have been good for Edmonton if they weren’t so far out of it

Can't afford a 3 million dollar fourth liner. No one was taking that deal on without moving salary the other way.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Can't afford a 3 million dollar fourth liner. No one was taking that deal on without moving salary the other way.

True from a cap POV, so it depends on cap situation of a team. The reason Kruger was enticing to Carolina is they didn't care about the Cap, only real money. Kruger's actual salary this year (Chicago paid his bonus before the trade) was $1.475M. Next year, it's $2.3M, which is still high for what he brings.

I agree though. Would require salary coming back and/or retention, particularly for any team that has cap concerns next year.

 

[garnetpalmetto]

And now the corollary move - both assigned to AHL Charlotte.

 

[NotOpie]

And now the corollary move - both assigned to AHL Charlotte.

Boom!!! Who's comin' up?

 

[hockeykicker]

Are they making a trade? Doesn't seem like they calling Anyone up?

 

[garnetpalmetto]

Are they making a trade? Doesn't seem like they calling Anyone up?

Doubtful. Charlotte and Carolina both play tonight and tomorrow. My guess is both teams stay the course tonight and make any call-ups after tonight/before tomorrow.

 

[rt]

I wonder if Carolina would be open to retention at this point. I wouldn't mind adding Kruger if the Canes retained some salary. 25% or something would be fine.

To CAR:
Freddie Hamilton

To ARI:
Marcus Kruger (@75%)

Evens up the contract count, and makes the salary more palatable.

Frees AZ up to go find a new home for Brad Richardson. There are some teams in the hunt with major PK woes that should be happy to pony up some nice picks for Richardson.

 

[DaveG]

Pretty sure we can get better then that if we're retaining 25% on Kruger. I'd rather have Marek Langhamer in all honesty with where the franchise is with goaltending, wouldn't mind having him be the #3 in the org next season.