Horrible NHL refs

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  1. Chimp

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    The NHL refs have been awful the entire tournament. Now I start to understand why NHL fans are crying about the refs.

    It's not that they have a stricter view on hookings/holdings/interference, it's that they're inconsistent. It's a roller coaster. One thing they can let go of, the next time they blow the whistle for something less than the first thing they decided not to care about.

    If the refs are inconsistent, the players are clueless what they can and can't do. They don't even know if they can do what they usually can do even in peewee hockey.

    Heck, they're not even consistent for one period at a time. Usually an NHL ref meant:
    1st Period: Penalty for everything. If you even look at your opponent, you receive a penalty.
    2nd Period: Normal level.
    3rd Period: They need blood to blow the whistle.

    I think the old NHL ref system sucked, but this new one suck even more. They're simply put awful. Inconsistency = Bad ref.

    From what I've seen from the European refs, they're not as spooked as the NHL counterpart.
     
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    There is also only one of them on the ice instead of 2. They're almost forced to call what they think they see.
     
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    If the nhl refs can't handle the change, they have to be replaced by European refs. The inconsistency of the refs really isn't helping the hockey.
     
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    Huh? I can't remember the last time a european ref blew his whistle in the final period of an important match in the world championships..

    Typically there the euro refs:
    blow everything in first period, he shows he's the boss
    in second period calm down, but try to even the scores when they realise they've made a mistake
    third period, don't blow at all
    overtime - what whistle?

    Basically everyone always complains about the refs, and they all make mistakes. There's poor NHL refs too. But they are imho more consistent. Although they do have some North American bias.
     
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    Usually the NHL refs are consistent one period at a time before they change level. This tournament they haven't.
     
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    I agree. They have been surprisingly awful.
     
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    Consistency has been a major issue the entire season, IMO.

    Officiating, as a whole, has been well below par so far this season.
    I think they're having more problems with the new rules than the players.
     
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    Has the officiating been any better than the WJC? I remember at the time there were all sorts of problems in that tournament that people were afraid might roll over into this tournament.
     
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    haha wow

    welcome to the new NHL views on obstruction guys

    the IIHF has adopted the NHLs version so of course the euros are gonna have some trouble
     
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    The NHL refs are better then the euros, no doubt. But Manhassenhoven was a disaster, not because the calls he made but because he couldn't keep up with the pace in the game. He was two zones behind all the time. The last few years in the NHL the refs only needs to cover half of the ice with the 2 ref system. It was obvious that Manhassenhoven was not used to all the skating.
     
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    Oh, he was a disaster for the calls he made as well. The guy saw mice and swallowed camels. And yeah, it was obvious he couldn't keep up, it was too fast for him. Kind of hard to see what is going on 2 zones away I guess. American food habits and only needing to cover half the rink in NHL is bad for the refs physical condition I guess.
     
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    The NHL refs are no following the NHL version. Kaspar where allowed to crosscheck Holmström in front of the net all he wanted the entire night.
     
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    ;) Korolyuk two dives where embarrassing for him, I give you that. Especially the one where he where 2 and a half zones behind the play.
     
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    Hehe, yeah, how I laughed about that. Here they are talking about stricter rules on interference etc. and Holmström sure took a beating. No calls made. On especially one occasion where a shot from the blueline was taken, Holmström flew down on the ice, stomach first. Gee, wonder if that crosschecking in the back had anything to do with it?

    The next sequence, Sundin gets a russian stick in his face. No call. Then Samuelsson checks a Russian player (Korolyuk again?), who takes the dive of his life, but still it was an obvious dive. Penalty Sweden. Those small things didn't turn the game, but it sure didn't help Sweden either.

    Bäckman's penalty for hooking was also a laugh, as was a Russian player's hooking in the game Russia - Slovakia.

    Korolyuk, what a sissy. No respect for him. There's nothing worse than an unsportsmanlike, dishonest diver. But they usually get what they deserve in the end. :sarcasm:
     
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    The Nhl has a better diver than Korolyuk :sarcasm:
     
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    Korolyuk have the best dives. He is very verstaile, he can do the dieing swan and a verticle 720 degree flop spin.
     
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    Im not complaining about that. ;)
     
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    Hey, can we at least keep the Crosby talk out of the Olympics. ;)
     
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    hahahahahaha, u r not talking about Maria's lil' b##ch, r u?:)
     
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    Euro refs don't mind/don't see a lot of stick fouls. But they hate really hard, clean hits. They call 'em charging, roughing, interference (even when the "hittee" has the puck), anything to get that brute off the ice. Here in N. America, we see the officials as one of the worst parts of the Euro game. They even get offside wrong once in a while.
     
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    Nothing to do with the "NHL view". I've seen plenty of NHL games this season and in none of the games has the officiating been as bad as it was in the Slovakia - Russia game. In other games the refereeing has been a little better, but still below the NHL level. At least when it comes to the NA refs. Some euro refs have been pretty good.
     
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    Have you even seen an euro ref? Or just going by the (false) stereotype?

    Then again, you're quite the stereotype yourself...
     
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    That's so bull... except for that you in N.America see them as the worst parts of the Euro game. Strangely, I often say the same thing about N.American officials, who are supposed to do this as a living, where many European counterparts are half-pros who have to work beside they ref assignments.
     
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