HOH Top 60 Wingers List & Voting Record - MXD

TheDevilMadeMe

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Round 1 List
HOH Top 60 Wingers List & Voting Record - MXD - HFBoards

Players from our final top 60 not ranked in this top 60
Reg Noble at 61
Daniel Alfredsson at 63
Ilya Kovalchuk at 66
Theo Fleury at 69
Marian Hossa at 70
Rick Middleton at 76
Mark Recchi at 78
Vladimir Krutov (not ranked)

Players unique to this list
Vincent Damphousse
Carson Cooper

Players ranked highest overall on this list
Bobby Hull (tied with 18 others)
Frank Mahovlich
Jari Kurri
Michel Goulet (tied with 1 other)
John LeClair
Claude Provost (tied with 1 other)
Herbie Lewis
Larry Aurie
Mats Naslund (tied with 1 other)

Players ranked 2nd highest on this list
Maurice Richard (tied with 13 others)
Guy Lafleur (tied with 14 others)
Sergei Makarov (tied with 4 others)
Johnny Gottselig

Players ranked lowest overall on this list
Mark Recchi

Players ranked 2nd lowest on this list
Rick Middleton (tied with 1 other)

Round 2 Voting

Higher than anyone else

Vote 6 - Blake in 1st
Vote 9 - Goulet in 1st

Lower than anyone else

NONE
 
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MXD

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I'd really change my Conacher ranking and put him with the Ovechkin/Lindsay group. The last winger (looking at the list, not chronologically) to really be an outlier should've deserved a bit more appreciatiom.

Waaayyy too much love for Mahovlich, though that wouldn't represent a big drop, rankings-wise.

Regardless of what I said earlier in the thread dedicated to C58, I'm still a bit unsure about whether it was a good idea to switch Lafleur and Cook in Vote 2.

Jari Kurri ranking sponsored by Jim Beam. Or MacAllan.
 

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I like: Your ranking of Herbie Lewis. Seems like not many voters ranked him, unfortunately.

I don't like: Your ranking of Bill Barber. And wow, at least two voters had him higher than 47?
 

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I like: Your ranking of Herbie Lewis. Seems like not many voters ranked him, unfortunately.

I don't like: Your ranking of Bill Barber. And wow, at least two voters had him higher than 47?

I might have him a tad lower now, if only because of some 90ies and 00'/players being pushed up a bit (Fleury, Recchi, Hossa), but he'd still be in the same range with a Shutt/Martin slight drop.

This said, in a world where Paul Thompson appears on 13 lists, then Herbie Lewis appearing on only 4 lists (and Aurie on only 3) is par for the course.

I think Barber got shafted a bit, but that was indeed at least 15 spots too high regardless.
 

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Seems like a solid list, quite surprised at how many players are in between St. Louis and Iginla.I had to compare them in some draft and it was very hard to do.
 

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Seems like a solid list, quite surprised at how many players are in between St. Louis and Iginla.I had to compare them in some draft and it was very hard to do.

Put that on overrating a few players between them (namely, Bure and Bentley). In popular conscience, Iginla is also a wee bit overrated as well - physical play is sometimes lumped with defensive play, and Iginla is decidedly nothing special in the later.
 

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Put that on overrating a few players between them (namely, Bure and Bentley). In popular conscience, Iginla is also a wee bit overrated as well - physical play is sometimes lumped with defensive play, and Iginla is decidedly nothing special in the later.

Though whatever Iginla did, it resulted in amazing on-ice goal differential numbers compared to his teammates.
 

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Though whatever Iginla did, it resulted in amazing on-ice goal differential numbers compared to his teammates.

... Which could collectively be described as a revolving door of replacement-level top-6ers, if not replacements level NHLers. Except for a very select few seasons.

Being better than that should be a given for a Top-25 winger of all-time.

Yes, I said top-25 and I'll stand by this. I'll never call him a top-20 winger, however.

Edit : Unless he adds to his resume, which entirely possible, but not very likely.
 
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