HOH Top 60 Wingers List & Voting Record - Hardyvan123

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Round 1 List
HOH Top 60 Wingers List & Voting Record - Hardyvan123 - HFBoards

Players from our final top 60 not ranked in this top 60
Rod Gilbert at 66
Doug Bnetley at 73
Sweeney Schriner at 75
Bryan Hextall at 78
Tommy Phillips at 80
Anatoli Firsov (unranked)
Vladimir Krutov (unranked)
Alexander Yakushev (unranked)
Gordie Drillon (unranked)
Didier Pitre (unranked)
Paul Thompson (unranked)
Cecil Dillon (unranked)
Reg Noble (unranked)

Players unique to this list
Real Cloutier
Rick Nash

Players ranked highest overall on this list
Jaromir Jagr (tied with 1 other)
Sergei Makarov (tied with 4 others)
Teemu Selanne
Jarome Iginla
Brendan Shanahan
Cam Neely
Mark Recchi
Marian Hossa
Daniel Alfredsson
Keith Tkachuk
Peter Bondra
Corey Perry
Marian Gaborik
John Tonelli

Players ranked 2nd highest on this list
Mike Bossy (tied with 11 others)
Alexander Ovechkin (tied with 2 others)
Jari Kurri
Brett Hull (tied with 1 other)
Pavel Bure
Paul Kariya (tied with 1 other)
Ilya Kovalchuk
Patrik Elias
Theo Fleury
John LeClair (tied with 1 other)
Mike Gartner
Patrick Kane
Joe Mullen
Ziggy Pallfy
Dany Heatley
Milan Hejduk
Marc Tardif
Tim Kerr


Players ranked lowest overall on this list
Bobby Hull (tied with 4 others)
Guy Lafleur (tied with 4 others)
Charlie Conacher
Dickie Moore
Doug Bentley
Sweeney Schriner
Bryan Hextall
Tommy Phillips

Players ranked 2nd lowest on this list
Maurice Richard (tied with 5 others)
Bill Cook (tied with 2 others)

Round 2 Voting

Highest vote

Vote 2 - Lafleur in 4th
Vote 3 - Selanne in 2nd
Vote 7 - Shanahan in 3rd
Vote 8 - Recchi in 3rd
Vote 11 - Kovalchuk in 1st
Vote 12 - Naslund in 2nd

Lowest vote

Vote 1 - Cook not ranked
Vote 2 - Cook in 7th
Vote 3 - Conacher in 3rd
Vote 7 - Firsov not ranked
Vote 13 - Noble not ranked

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[TheDevilMadeMe]

I'm posting this as a poster, not as the substitute project admin, which I was forced to become

Guys who peaked after 1980 in bold.
Guys who peaked before 1945 in (italics parenthesis)

Round|1st|2nd|3rd|4th|5th|6th|7th|8th|9th|10th|none
1|Howe| Jagr |Hull|Richard| Makarov |Lafleur| Bossy |Lindsay||| (Cook)
2| Makarov | Ovechkin | Bossy |Lafleur|Lindsay|Kharlamov| (Cook) | (Conacher) |||Mahovlich
3| Ovechkin | Selanne |Kharlamov|Lindsay|Mahovlich|Geoffrion|Bathgate| (Conacher) |||
4| Selanne |Mahovlich|Bathgate| Hull | Kurri |Mikhailov| (Blake) | (Denneny) ||| (Joliat) , Moore
5| Hull | Iginla | St. Louis |Mikhailov| Kurri | (Joliat) | (Denneny) | (Blake) ||| (Bentley) , (Jackson) , Moore
6| Hull | Bure | Iginla | Kurri | St. Louis | (Blake) |Bucyk| (Jackson) ||| (Bentley) , Firsov, (Phillips)
7| Bure | St. Louis | Shanahan |Bucyk| (Jackson) | (Howe) | Goulet | (Bentley) | (Schriner) | (Phillips)| (Dye) , Firsov
8| Kariya |Bucyk| Recchi | Robitaille |Martinec| Shanahan | (Schriner) | Goulet | (Hextall Sr.) |( Howe )|Cournoyer, (Dye) , (Phillips)
9| Kariya | Hossa | Robitaille | Recchi | Shanahan | Kovalchuk | Goulet | (Dye) |Cournoyer|Conacher| Krutov , (Pitre)
10| Hossa | Elias | Alfredsson | Kovalchuk | LeClair | Neely | Goulet| Cournoyer|Balderis|Gilbert|Conacher, (Drillon) , Krutov , (Pitre)
11| Kovalchuk | Alfredsson | Fleury | Neely | Middleton | LeClair |Cournoyer|Yakushev|Balderis|Gilbert| (Drillon), (Noble) , Olmstead, (Pitre)
12| Fleury | Naslund | Neely | Middleton | Kovalchuk |Balderis|Gilbert|Olmstead| (Thompson) | (Dillon) |Gainey, (Noble), (Pitre)
13| Kovalchuk | Naslund | Middleton | Neely | Tkachuk |McDonald|Martin| Mogilny |Olmstead|Barber| (Broadbent), Gainey, (Noble)

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

I'm posting this as a poster, not as the substitute project admin, which I was forced to become

Guys who peaked after 1980 in bold.
Guys who peaked before 1945 in (italics parenthesis)

Round|1st|2nd|3rd|4th|5th|6th|7th|8th|9th|10th|none
1|Howe| Jagr |Hull|Richard| Makarov |Lafleur| Bossy |Lindsay||| (Cook)
2| Makarov | Ovechkin | Bossy |Lafleur|Lindsay|Kharlamov| (Cook) | (Conacher) |||Mahovlich
3| Ovechkin | Selanne |Kharlamov|Lindsay|Mahovlich|Geoffrion|Bathgate| (Conacher) |||
4| Selanne |Mahovlich|Bathgate| Hull | Kurri |Mikhailov| (Blake) | (Denneny) ||| (Joliat) , Moore
5| Hull | Iginla | St. Louis |Mikhailov| Kurri | (Joliat) | (Denneny) | (Blake) ||| (Bentley) , (Jackson) , Moore
6| Hull | Bure | Iginla | Kurri | St. Louis | (Blake) |Bucyk| (Jackson) ||| (Bentley) , Firsov, (Phillips)
7| Bure | St. Louis | Shanahan |Bucyk| (Jackson) | (Howe) | Goulet | (Bentley) | (Schriner) | (Phillips)| (Dye) , Firsov
8| Kariya |Bucyk| Recchi | Robitaille |Martinec| Shanahan | (Schriner) | Goulet | (Hextall Sr.) |( Howe )|Cournoyer, (Dye) , (Phillips)
9| Kariya | Hossa | Robitaille | Recchi | Shanahan | Kovalchuk | Goulet | (Dye) |Cournoyer|Conacher| Krutov , (Pitre)
10| Hossa | Elias | Alfredsson | Kovalchuk | LeClair | Neely | Goulet| Cournoyer|Balderis|Gilbert|Conacher, (Drillon) , Krutov , (Pitre)
11| Kovalchuk | Alfredsson | Fleury | Neely | Middleton | LeClair |Cournoyer|Yakushev|Balderis|Gilbert| (Drillon), (Noble) , Olmstead, (Pitre)
12| Fleury | Naslund | Neely | Middleton | Kovalchuk |Balderis|Gilbert|Olmstead| (Thompson) | (Dillon) |Gainey, (Noble), (Pitre)
13| Kovalchuk | Naslund | Middleton | Neely | Tkachuk |McDonald|Martin| Mogilny |Olmstead|Barber| (Broadbent), Gainey, (Noble)

What's your point? The guy prefers modern players?
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[TheDevilMadeMe]

What's your point? The guy prefers modern players?

Or maybe there are just more modern players than there are Montreal players.

 

[Hardyvan123]

Or maybe there are just more modern players than there are Montreal players.

Well pre 1980ish there aren't a lot of guys from BC, the states ect..although there were a few from Russia.

My current list would look a lot different than the slit I put together before the project but quite a few guys that I left off I was very comfortable with my reasons, even if the project as a whole had a different perspective on them.

As for the "extreme voting" the more modern guys tended to drop quite a bit more or came up quite a bit later than I had them ranked and part of the differences is most likely how I deal with the fully integrated league not be on a totally equal basis as a 6 team league, or a 4 or 3 team one or the differences in player composition and talent streams.

A lot of people say they take these differences into consideration but the arguments around that idea suggest otherwise (generally speaking).

 

[kmad]

You really like the 90s.

 

[seventieslord]

Or maybe there are just more modern players than there are Montreal players.

I wouldn't use a word nearly as strong as "extreme" when talking about anyone else's voting pattern, after seeing this. Oh. My. Gawd.

 

[VMBM]

What, no votes for Krutov???

 

[unknown33]

Surpsingly there are some old players who he decides to rank very high like Broadbent for whatever reason, adding to the randomness.
Similarly his Soviet player rating makes no sense either of course.

 

[seventieslord]

Surpsingly there are some old players who he decides to rank very high like Broadbent for whatever reason, adding to the randomness.
Similarly his Soviet player rating makes no sense either of course.

?? He didn't rank Broadbent on his round 1 list and didn't rank him in the round 13 voting.

 

[unknown33]

?? He didn't rank Broadbent on his round 1 list and didn't rank him in the round 13 voting.

Round 1 List

38|Theo Fleury
39|Punch Broadbent
40|Luc Robitaille

Just not Round 2.

 

[seventieslord]

Just not Round 2.

ugh... ctfl-f failed me somehow...

and yeah, that's weird. but this is all weird, isn't it?

 

[Hardyvan123]

You really like the 90s.

the 90's can be explained by having the traditional Canadain talent and some new Canadian talent from BC, mainly Hull, Neely, Recchi, Kariya as well as great American and non Russian European wingers as well as some Russians.

Truly in terms of depth and elite talent the 90's really stand out for wingers IMO.