HOH Top 60 Centers List & Voting Record - vecens24

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Round 1 List

Rank | name
1 | Wayne Gretzky
2 | Mario Lemieux
3 | Jean Beliveau
4 | Stan Mikita
5 | Howie Morenz
6 | Mark Messier
7 | Bryan Trottier
8 | Bobby Clarke
9 | Joe Sakic
10 | Phil Esposito
11 | Frank Nighbor
12 | Steve Yzerman
13 | Cyclone Taylor
14 | Milt Schmidt
15 | Frank Boucher
16 | Newsy Lalonde
17 | Marcel Dionne
18 | Henri Richard
19 | Sidney Crosby
20 | Joe Malone
21 | Syl Apps Sr
22 | Ted Kennedy
23 | Nels Stewart
24 | Peter Forsberg
25 | Ron Francis
26 | Alex Delvecchio
27 | Norm Ullman
28 | Elmer Lach
29 | Sid Abel
30 | Sergei Fedorov
31 | Gilbert Perreault
32 | Adam Oates
33 | Doug Gilmour
34 | Dale Hawerchuk
35 | Peter Stastny
36 | Bill Cowley
37 | Evgeni Malkin
38 | Joe Thornton
39 | Russell Bowie
40 | Max Bentley
41 | Igor Larionov
42 | Hooley Smith
43 | Dave Keon
44 | Alexander Maltsev
45 | Mike Modano
46 | Jean Ratelle
47 | Vladimir Petrov
48 | Denis Savard
49 | Eric Lindros
50 | Pavel Datsyuk
51 | Mickey MacKay
52 | Mats Sundin
53 | Frank Fredrickson
54 | Duke Keats
55 | Marty Barry
56 | Darryl Sittler
57 | Jacques Lemaire
58 | Henrik Sedin
59 | Frank McGee
60 | Jeremy Roenick
61 | Frank Foyston
62 | Tommy Dunderdale
63 | Bernie Morris
64 | Steven Stamkos
65 | Milan Novy
66 | Joe Nieuwendyk
67 | Rod Bridndamour
68 | Ralph Backstrom
69 | Pat Lafontaine
70 | Vyacheslav Starshinov
71 | Joe Primeau
72 | Brad Richards
73 | Pierre Turgeon
74 | Jack Adams
75 | Don McKenney
76 | Neil Colville
77 | Guy Carbonneau
78 | Red Berenson
79 | Bernie Federko
80 | Phil Watson

Players from our final top 60 not ranked in this top 60
Henrik Zetterberg (not ranked)
Vaclav Nedomansky (not ranked)
Neil Colville (ranked 76)

Players unique to this list
Red Berenson

Players ranked highest overall on this list
NONE

Players ranked 2nd highest on this list
Adam Oates at 32

Players ranked lowest overall on this list
NONE

Players ranked 2nd lowest on this list
Dave Keon at 43
Eric Lindros at 49

Round 2 Voting Record

Round|1st|2nd|3rd|4th|5th|6th|7th|8th|none
1|Gretzky|Lemieux|Beliveau|Morenz|Mikita|Messier|Clarke|Trottier|Esposito
2|||||||||
3|||||||||
4|||||||||
5|Richard|Schmidt|Crosby|Dionne|Forsberg|Kennedy|Malone|Fedorov|Bentley
6|||||||||
7|||||||||
8|||||||||
9|||||||||
10|||||||||
11|||||||||
12|||||||||
13|||||||||
14|||||||||
15|||||||||
16||||||

Highest vote
NONE

Lowest vote
NONE

Click to read more...

 

[MXD]

Round 1 List

Rank | name
1 | Wayne Gretzky
2 | Mario Lemieux
3 | Jean Beliveau
4 | Stan Mikita
5 | Howie Morenz
6 | Mark Messier
7 | Bryan Trottier
8 | Bobby Clarke
9 | Joe Sakic
10 | Phil Esposito
11 | Frank Nighbor
12 | Steve Yzerman
13 | Cyclone Taylor
14 | Milt Schmidt
15 | Frank Boucher
16 | Newsy Lalonde
17 | Marcel Dionne
18 | Henri Richard
19 | Sidney Crosby
20 | Joe Malone
21 | Syl Apps Sr
22 | Ted Kennedy
23 | Nels Stewart
24 | Peter Forsberg
25 | Ron Francis
26 | Alex Delvecchio
27 | Norm Ullman
28 | Elmer Lach
29 | Sid Abel
30 | Sergei Fedorov
31 | Gilbert Perreault
32 | Adam Oates
33 | Doug Gilmour
34 | Dale Hawerchuk
35 | Peter Stastny
36 | Bill Cowley
37 | Evgeni Malkin
38 | Joe Thornton
39 | Russell Bowie
40 | Max Bentley
41 | Igor Larionov
42 | Hooley Smith
43 | Dave Keon
44 | Alexander Maltsev
45 | Mike Modano
46 | Jean Ratelle
47 | Vladimir Petrov
48 | Denis Savard
49 | Eric Lindros
50 | Pavel Datsyuk
51 | Mickey MacKay
52 | Mats Sundin
53 | Frank Fredrickson
54 | Duke Keats
55 | Marty Barry
56 | Darryl Sittler
57 | Jacques Lemaire
58 | Henrik Sedin
59 | Frank McGee
60 | Jeremy Roenick
61 | Frank Foyston
62 | Tommy Dunderdale
63 | Bernie Morris
64 | Steven Stamkos
65 | Milan Novy
66 | Joe Nieuwendyk
67 | Rod Bridndamour
68 | Ralph Backstrom
69 | Pat Lafontaine
70 | Vyacheslav Starshinov
71 | Joe Primeau
72 | Brad Richards
73 | Pierre Turgeon
74 | Jack Adams
75 | Don McKenney
76 | Neil Colville
77 | Guy Carbonneau
78 | Red Berenson
79 | Bernie Federko
80 | Phil Watson

Players from our final top 60 not ranked in this top 60
Henrik Zetterberg (not ranked)
Vaclav Nedomansky (not ranked)
Neil Colville (ranked 76)

Players unique to this list
Red Berenson

Players ranked highest overall on this list
NONE

Players ranked 2nd highest on this list
Adam Oates at 32

Players ranked lowest overall on this list
NONE

Players ranked 2nd lowest on this list
Dave Keon at 43
Eric Lindros at 49

Round 2 Voting Record

Round|1st|2nd|3rd|4th|5th|6th|7th|8th|none
1|Gretzky|Lemieux|Beliveau|Morenz|Mikita|Messier|Clarke|Trottier|Esposito
2|||||||||
3|||||||||
4|||||||||
5|Richard|Schmidt|Crosby|Dionne|Forsberg|Kennedy|Malone|Fedorov|Bentley
6|||||||||
7|||||||||
8|||||||||
9|||||||||
10|||||||||
11|||||||||
12|||||||||
13|||||||||
14|||||||||
15|||||||||
16||||||

Highest vote
NONE

Lowest vote
NONE

Here's one I would have appreciated to see participate in round 2. The list is not perfect (none will be), but its certainly sound enough.

 

[Plural]

Great list. I would put Fedorov bit higher, but I like the fact that Malkin edges Thornton. Also, seems like you guys are careful with Canadians.

 

[Say Hey Kid]

Great list. I would put Fedorov bit higher, but I like the fact that Malkin edges Thornton. Also, seems like you guys are careful with Canadians.

I think Thornton deserves to edge Malkin. He has everything (including an 1184-626 edge in points), but playoff success. Excluding defensive specialists, show me a center in the post O6 era with 626 points who's in the HHoF. Thornton will be. Is winning 1 Cup with superior talent the only thing that matters?

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

When we didn't have enough lists to start the project, vecens24 is one of the ones I PMed, telling him he could submit a list, and don't worry about voting in Round 2 if he didn't have time.

Seems he took me up on it. A shame he didn't have time to be more involved.

 

[MXD]

I think Thornton deserves to edge Malkin. He has everything (including an 1184-626 edge in points), but playoff success. Excluding defensive specialists, show me a center in the post O6 era with 626 points who's in the HHoF. Thornton will be. Is winning 1 Cup with superior talent the only thing that matters?

Nah, but I have yet to see a player with 3 1st AS, 1 Hart and 2 second places for Hart, 1 Connie Smythe and 2 Art Ross not make it either.

(Not taking position on the Malkin/Thornton debate)

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Jeremy Roenick 60th.

As it might have been.....