Prospect Info: HFOil Top 20 Oilers Prospects 2017 (FINAL RANKINGS)

[McMozesmadness]

So with John Marino winning the final poll we have our top 20 for 2017.

Here is the final ranking:

HFOil Top 20 Oilers Prospects 2017
1) Jesse Puljujärvi - RW - Bakersfield Condors - AHL - 100%
2) Kailer Yamamoto - RW - Spokane Chiefs - WHL - 57.67%
3) Caleb Jones - D - Portland Winterhawks - WHL - 52.25%
4) Ethan Bear - D - Seattle Thunderbirds - WHL - 60.22%
5) Tyler Benson - LW - Vancouver Giants - WHL - 61.36%
6) Laurent Brossoit - G - Edmonton Oilers - WHL - 55.56%
7) Ziyat Paigin - D - Ak Bars Kazan - KHL - 31.18%
8) Jujhar Khaira - C - Bakersfield Condors - AHL - 45.21%
9) Dylan Wells - G - Peterborough Petes - OHL - 55.56%
10) Joe Gambardella - C - UMass Riverhawks- NCAA - 15.52%
11) Nick Ellis - G - Bakersfield Condors - AHL - 25.58%
12) Ryan Mantha - D - Niagara Ice Dogs- OHL - 30.91%
13) Dmitri Samorukov - D - Guelph Storm - OHL - 33.96%
14) Ostap Safin - LW - HC Sparta Praha - CZE - 39.22%
15) Aapeli Rasanen - C - Sioux Musketeers - USHL - 39.22%
16) Kirill Maksimov - RW - Niagara IceDogs - OHL - 41.94%
17) Filip Berglund - D - Skelleftea AIK - SHL - 43.33%
18) Stuart Skinner - G - Lethbridge Hurricanes - WHL - 25.00%
19) Markus Niemelainen - D - Saginaw Spirit - OHL - 28.00%
20) John Marino - D - Harvard Crimson - NCAA - 30.61%

Thanks to everyone who voted.

Here is the list of prospects who did not make the top 20:

• BEN BETKER
• SKYLER BRIND'AMOUR
• MATTHEW CAIRNS
• GREG CHASE
• BRADEN CHRISTOFFER
• VINCENT DESHARNAIS
• GRAYSON DOWNING
• BRIAN FERLIN
• PHILIP KEMP
• WILLIAM LAGESSON
• JOEY LALEGGIA
• KEEGAN LOWE
• GRAHAM MCPHEE
• AIDAN MUIR
• KYLE PLATZER
• TY RATTIE
• PATRICK RUSSELL
• DILLON SIMPSON
• SHANE STARRET
• TYLER VESEL
• BOGDAN YAKIMOV

Some names here that I still really like. We have a vey deep pool right now.

For reference here are the last 3 years of poll results:

HFOil Top 20 Oilers Prospects 2016
1) Jesse Puljujärvi - RW - Oulun Kärpät - Liiga - 100%*
2) Drake Caggiula - LW - North Dakota - NCAA - 31.15%
3) Tyler Benson - LW - Vancouver Giants - WHL - 42.17%
4) Griffin Reinhart - D - Bakersfield Condors - AHL - 64.86%
5) Ethan Bear - D - Seattle Thunderbirds - WHL - 26.53%
6) Laurent Brossoit - G - Bakersfield Condors - AHL - 44.44%
7) Ziyat Paigin - D - Sochi Hockey Club - KHL - 38.46%
8) Caleb Jones - D - Portland Winterhawks - WHL - 27.91%
9) Anton Slepyshev - RW - Bakersfield Condors - AHL - 32.26%
10) Jujhar Khaira - C - Bakersfield Condors- AHL - 32.26%
11) Jordan Oesterle - D - Bakersfield Condors - AHL - 40.38%
12) Markus Niemelainen - D - Saginaw Spirit - OHL - 47.73%
13) Bogdan Yakimov - C - Bakersfield Condors - AHL - 36.36%
14) Dillon Simpson - D - Bakersfield Condors - AHL - 28.95%
15) Joey LaLeggia - D - Bakersfield Condors - AHL - 24.53%
16) Tyler Pitlick - RW - Bakersfield Condors - AHL - 26.19%
17) David Musil - D - Bakersfield Condors - AHL - 29.41%
18) William Lagesson - D - UMass Amherst - NCAA - 42.31%
19) Aapeli Rasanen - C - Tappara U20 - Liiga Jr - 27.27%
20) Gregory Chase - RW - Norfolk Admirals - ECHL - 19.35%
* Poll #1 was skipped due to obvious results.


HFOil Top 20 Oilers Prospects 2015
1) Connor McDavid - C - Erie Otters - OHL - 100%*
2) Darnell Nurse - D - Soo Greyhounds - OHL - 66%
3) Leon Draisaitl - C - Kelowna Rockets - WHL - 30%*
4) Griffin Reinhart - D - Bridgeport S.Tigers - AHL - 78%
5) Bogdan Yakimov - C - OKC Barons - AHL - 38%
6) Laurent Brossoit - G - OKC Barons - AHL - 49%
7) Anton Slepyshev - LW - Salavat Yulayev - KHL - 49%
8) Greg Chase - RW - Victoria Royals - WHL - 36%
9) Joey LaLeggia - D - University of Denver - NCAA - 36%
10) Kyle Platzer - C/RW - Owen Sound Attack - OHL - 20%
11) Tyler Pitlick - RW - OKC Barons - AHL - 23%
12) Brandon Davidson - D - OKC Barons - AHL - 28%
13) Iiro Pakarinen - RW - OKC Barons - AHL - 21%
14) Jujhar Khaira - C - OKC Barons - AHL - 18%
15) Dillon Simpson - D - OKC Barons - AHL - 28%
16) Anders Nilsson - G - AK Bars Kazan - KHL - 21%
17) Ethan Bear - D - Seattle Thunderbirds - WHL - 26%
18) David Musil - D - OKC Barons - AHL - 29%
19) Caleb Jones - D - US National U18 - USHL - 21%
20) William Lagesson - D - Dubuque F.Saints - USHL - 21%
* Poll #1 and #3 was skipped due to obvious results.


HFOil Top 20 Oilers Prospects 2014
1) Leon Draisaitl - C - Prince Albert Raiders - WHL - 56.44%
2) Darnell Nurse - D - Soo Greyhounds - OHL - 94.20%
3) Oscar Klefbom - D - Oklahoma City Barons - AHL - 47.20%*
4) Martin Marincin - D - Edmonton Oilers - NHL - 47.20%
5) Bogdan Yakimov - C - Neftekhimik Nizhnekamsk - KHL - 47.33%
6) Jujhar Khaira - C - Everett Silvertips - WHL - 29.05%
7) Dillon Simpson - D - UND Fighting Sioux - NCAA - 32.67%
8) Greg Chase - RW - Calgary Hitmen - WHL - 37.90%
9) Mitchell Moroz - LW - Edmonton Oil Kings - WHL - 29.84%
10) Laurent Brossoit - G - Bakersfield Condors - ECHL - 32.08%
11) Martin Gernat - D - Oklahoma City Barons - AHL - 29.91%
12) Tyler Pitlick - RW - Oklahoma City Barons - AHL - 31.48%
13) David Musil - D - Oklahoma City Barons - AHL - 30.97%
14) Marco Roy - LW - Blainville-Boisbriand Armada - QMJHL - 51.09%
15) Anton Slepyshev - LW - Salavat Yulaev Ufa - KHL - 67.31%
16) Travis Ewanyk - C - Oklahoma City Barons - AHL - 17.35%
17) Brandon Davidson - D - Oklahoma City Barons - AHL - 28.57%
18) William Lagesson - D - Frölunda HC - SEL - 27.45%**
19) Jackson Houck - RW - Vancouver Giants - WHL - 27.45%
20) Iiro Pakarinen - RW - HIFK Helsinki - Liiga - 25.30%
* Klefbom won in a tie-breaker (52.34%)
** Lagesson won in a tie-breaker (59.70%)

I’d love to see some personal top 20 lists. Also I always like to ask who is everyones darkhorse, by that I mean which guy who missed the top 20 do you really like?

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[McMozesmadness]

My final list:

1) Jesse Puljujarvi
2) Kailer Yamamoto
3) Caleb Jones
4) Dylan Wells
5) Tyler Benson
6) Dmitri Samorukov
7) Ethan Bear
8) Laurent Brossoit
9) Jujhar Khaira
10) Joe Gambardella
11) Nick Ellis
12) Kirill Maksimov
13) Filip Berglund
14) Markus Niemelainen
15) William Lagesson
16) Ryan Mantha
17) Tyler Vesel
18) Ostap Safin
19) John Marino
20) Ziyat Paigan

So from the the guys that missed the HFOil top 20 my sleepers are Lagesson and Vesel.

I really like our prospects right now. Very deep group.

I think the importance of a strong prospect pool will become insanely important very quickly for our organization.

 

[thadd]

Simpson really fell off of the radar since going pro.
Jones on the other hand has risen quickly.

 

[belair]

Ooooof that's a shallow prospect pool.

I'm still a little disappointed Chiarelli couldn't siphon Dal Colle out of that Eberle deal. I think he would've been a phenomenal add for us.

 

[thadd]

Ooooof that's a shallow prospect pool.

I'm still a little disappointed Chiarelli couldn't siphon Dal Colle out of that Eberle deal. I think he would've been a phenomenal add for us.

I agree but I think Eberle played with so little passion last year that it killed his value.

 

[nexttothemoon]

I personally think Yamamoto is the #1 prospect in the org right now... based on ceiling and potential I think he has the greatest upside of anyone.

 

[Zaddy]

Ooooof that's a shallow prospect pool.

I'm still a little disappointed Chiarelli couldn't siphon Dal Colle out of that Eberle deal. I think he would've been a phenomenal add for us.

I don't get this sentiment. This is the deepest prospect pool the Oilers have had in a very long time. And the high-end talent is good too with Pulju and Yamamoto (and maybe even Jones). Chia has done a terrific job re-stocking the cupboards. We've went from one of the worst prospect pools in the league, to one of the better ones (top15).

 

[CupofOil]

Ooooof that's a shallow prospect pool.

I'm still a little disappointed Chiarelli couldn't siphon Dal Colle out of that Eberle deal. I think he would've been a phenomenal add for us.

Really?

They aren't likely to get any top 10 prospect pool votes but compared to a couple of years ago, the pool looks significantly deeper with the adds of JP and Yamamoto obviously but moreso because of the emergence of Jones and Bear from mid to low round picks into WHL stars, Wells had a huge year, the signings of the three more underrated prospects in Ellis, Gambardella and Mantha and Brossoit starting to make some strides.

They are severely lacking quality center depth (disappointed that they ignored this need in this past draft) but considering the lack of picks Chia has had (could have had Erikkson-Ek and Carlo ), the prospect pool looks pretty solid all things considered.

 

[Jumptheshark]

I personally think Yamamoto is the #1 prospect in the org right now... based on ceiling and potential I think he has the greatest upside of anyone.

and let me guess you want him to play 7 games before being sent down this season?

just a guess

he need to do the full pull in JR and then onto the A for a year or two

we no longer need to rush our picks

 

[Stud Muffin]

Ooooof that's a shallow prospect pool.

I'm still a little disappointed Chiarelli couldn't siphon Dal Colle out of that Eberle deal. I think he would've been a phenomenal add for us.

I disagree, I think it's deeper than it's ever been.

 

[nexttothemoon]

and let me guess you want him to play 7 games before being sent down this season?

just a guess

he need to do the full pull in JR and then onto the A for a year or two

we no longer need to rush our picks

I actually am neutral on what they should do with him.

I think he's very likely the most talented forward prospect the Oilers have is what I said.

He's not likely going to learn a lot more in the CHL playing against a bunch of other less talented 17/18/19 year olds.

Ideally he could step up to the AHL level now and start getting experience vs better competition but obviously that's not an option yet.

NCAA level competition would also likely be a better option as well... much like Gaudreau did which likely helped him a lot as well.

Again, it's too bad 1st rounders don't have an exemption status which allows them to play AHL games at 18 which is where a lot of the more talented ones would benefit from the better development opportunities vs better players and closer to NHL caliber coaching/systems.

If the Oilers wanted to give him a look on the NHL roster for a few games, I'd certainly have no issue with that if he looks exceptional in the pre-season but my feeling is that he will go back to junior just like most here think he should.

 

[Mcnotloilersfan]

I disagree, I think it's deeper than it's ever been.

I agree as well. 1-19 all have me quite intrigued.

We are finally tapping into the OHL more. There's just so much more depth there.

Interesting how much we kept over-rating Nurse. We had him higher than Drai in 2015, and Klef the year before.

 

[lakai17]

Ooooof that's a shallow prospect pool.

I'm still a little disappointed Chiarelli couldn't siphon Dal Colle out of that Eberle deal. I think he would've been a phenomenal add for us.

I think Barzal more than MDC when we're talking islanders

I like our pool at the moment. There's finally some decent defenceman and goaltenders in the mix.

 

[belair]

I think Barzal more than MDC when we're talking islanders

I like our pool at the moment. There's finally some decent defenceman and goaltenders in the mix.

Well Dal Colle would've been a reasonable ask if we'd tweaked the deal a tad. Barzal is just unrealistic. Honestly, I see MDC as a player who might be of interest to our team over the next year or so. He's a guy who could fit in as a depth scorer replacing someone like Maroon down the line once he breaks into the league.

 

[belair]

I disagree, I think it's deeper than it's ever been.

The reason I disagree is because our 'sure bets' probably end at Caleb Jones. Even with him, one bad year in the AHL and he plummets down that list. Yamamoto has his size as a significant hurdle as well. There are simply a lot of wildcards in our system right now.

I see six household names on that list and one of those guys can't stay healthy. And we literally have three guys on that list--and two skaters--who seem poised to force their way onto the roster in the next two seasons. Khaira has no choice though. We need more.

 

[lakai17]

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Well Dal Colle would've been a reasonable ask if we'd tweaked the deal a tad. Barzal is just unrealistic. Honestly, I see MDC as a player who might be of interest to our team over the next year or so. He's a guy who could fit in as a depth scorer replacing someone like Maroon down the line once he breaks into the league.

Barzal an Oiler was a reality before Chia traded 2015 draft picks #15 + #33 for Griffin Reinhart. Chia may not have selected Barzal either with #15. I'm just saying he's the prospect that comes to my mind when we're talking islanders.

Snow would have to add to Dal Colle for Eberle of course. I think Strome was a decent trade. Anthony Beauvillier would have been another good option even if Chia had to add considering Barzal and Ho Sang would be untouchable.

 

[belair]

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Barzal an Oiler was a reality before Chia traded 2015 draft picks #15 + #33 for Griffin Reinhart. Chia may not have selected Barzal either with #15. I'm just saying he's the prospect that comes to my mind when we're talking islanders.

Snow would have to add to Dal Colle for Eberle of course. I think Strome was a decent trade. Anthony Beauvillier would have been another good option even if Chia had to add considering Barzal and Ho Sang would be untouchable.

Of course...honestly though, I'm really not that high on Barzal. I think he's a bit of a flawed prospect. He'll be an NHLer but I can't see him living up to the hype. And Beauvillier would've been another highly valued piece. He's a guy is trending up and plays a good two way game. I couldn't see Snow parting with him.

As for MDC, his stock isn't as high as it used to be, but there's still a future NHLer there. I would've tweaked it to get both because I see MDC as a guy who would've been an option to plug into the lineup over the next few seasons when salaries get tight. We needed an NHLer back for Eberle so Strome was the necessity. I think Chiarelli just softened on the value a bit.

I'm very happy with Strome and think he'll do well here but I'm greedy and I wanted more.

 

[Aerchon]

I can't be the only one who thinks our prospect pool is weak in general. Rife with long shot boom or busts besides Puljujärvi. Still not the worst but soon will be among the worst after he graduates.

We have the cap issues of a team that has been in the mix for the cup. We have a prospect pool like that as well.

Our drafting has to be better and some of our boom busts need to pan out asap.

 

[The Nuge]

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Barzal an Oiler was a reality before Chia traded 2015 draft picks #15 + #33 for Griffin Reinhart. Chia may not have selected Barzal either with #15. I'm just saying he's the prospect that comes to my mind when we're talking islanders.

Snow would have to add to Dal Colle for Eberle of course. I think Strome was a decent trade. Anthony Beauvillier would have been another good option even if Chia had to add considering Barzal and Ho Sang would be untouchable.

Barzal was never a reality. We were taking Svechnikov or Samsonov with that pick

 

[lakai17]

Barzal was never a reality. We were taking Svechnikov or Samsonov with that pick

Either one makes the prospect pool look potent is all I'm saying.

It hurts for us oil king viewers who knew Reinhart was nothing special. Anyway that's all said and done.

The prospect pool could be worse as we recall the pool 5 years ago, 10 years ago. It looks good and we finally have some assets in this organization today.

 

[La Bamba]

I think the prospect pool is pretty decent. I really like the top 4 prospects. Benson, Brossoit, and Khaira are good ones, too.

I think people just look at where they were drafted and assume they aren't good enough prospects. Not saying Bear and Jones are guaranteed NHLers but guys like Slavin and Pesce were also taken in the later rounds not too long ago. There is a real chance the Oilers found a couple of gems in those guys.

 

[Paralyzer]

Ooooof that's a shallow prospect pool.

I'm still a little disappointed Chiarelli couldn't siphon Dal Colle out of that Eberle deal. I think he would've been a phenomenal add for us.

I'm not. I feel Strome will play better than Eberle and we will feel we won the trade by the end of the season. People will ask who Eberle was. It's a fair trade.

 

[Aerchon]

I'm not. I feel Strome will play better than Eberle and we will feel we won the trade by the end of the season. People will ask who Eberle was. It's a fair trade.

Going to do that annoying thing I do where I say your both right.

Losing Reinhart after paying that price, looking at our prospect pool and knowing it should be better... I too was hoping for a boost to our pool with a Dal Colle, or lol maybe even Barzel coming back for Eberle. With McDavid and Leons contracts our prospect pool has become far more important than it was. And it was always very important to begin with.

But at the same time Strome is a guy that should be better for us now and moving forward. Very talented hockey player. Love that he can play center with a right shot. Should be a slight up grade at least on Eberle in terms of two way play and versatility.

 

[OilTastic]

Ooooof that's a shallow prospect pool.

I'm still a little disappointed Chiarelli couldn't siphon Dal Colle out of that Eberle deal. I think he would've been a phenomenal add for us.

I disagree, I think it's deeper than it's ever been.

we have a little of everything, a few high end talents, but lots of mid range talent and low end talent, support players if you will and that's what we need the most to support our star players in the future. Chia's good picks added to the mediocrity we already had from previous regimes and made it a pretty good system !

 

[neelynugs]

So with John Marino winning the final poll we have our top 20 for 2017.

Here is the final ranking:

HFOil Top 20 Oilers Prospects 2017
1) Jesse Puljujärvi - RW - Bakersfield Condors - AHL - 100%
2) Kailer Yamamoto - RW - Spokane Chiefs - WHL - 57.67%
3) Caleb Jones - D - Portland Winterhawks - WHL - 52.25%
4) Ethan Bear - D - Seattle Thunderbirds - WHL - 60.22%
5) Tyler Benson - LW - Vancouver Giants - WHL - 61.36%
6) Laurent Brossoit - G - Edmonton Oilers - WHL - 55.56%
7) Ziyat Paigin - D - Ak Bars Kazan - KHL - 31.18%
8) Jujhar Khaira - C - Bakersfield Condors - AHL - 45.21%
9) Dylan Wells - G - Peterborough Petes - OHL - 55.56%
10) Joe Gambardella - C - UMass Riverhawks- NCAA - 15.52%
11) Nick Ellis - G - Bakersfield Condors - AHL - 25.58%
12) Ryan Mantha - D - Niagara Ice Dogs- OHL - 30.91%
13) Dmitri Samorukov - D - Guelph Storm - OHL - 33.96%
14) Ostap Safin - LW - HC Sparta Praha - CZE - 39.22%
15) Aapeli Rasanen - C - Sioux Musketeers - USHL - 39.22%
16) Kirill Maksimov - RW - Niagara IceDogs - OHL - 41.94%
17) Filip Berglund - D - Skelleftea AIK - SHL - 43.33%
18) Stuart Skinner - G - Lethbridge Hurricanes - WHL - 25.00%
19) Markus Niemelainen - D - Saginaw Spirit - OHL - 28.00%
20) John Marino - D - Harvard Crimson - NCAA - 30.61%

a couple months down the road, wondering how you guys see this list today. big risers/fallers?
anyone that popped this fall that is definitely on the list now? also haven't followed the paigin
situation that closely - is he out of their plans now?