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BoldNewLettuce

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If we're giving eachother reach-arounds already. I'll give a shout out to New Jersey.

I'm not even huge on Keller but it seemed like a perfect draft for them and great value.
 

Zaddy

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If we're giving eachother reach-arounds already. I'll give a shout out to New Jersey.

I'm not even huge on Keller but it seemed like a perfect draft for them and great value.

Agreed. New Jersey got a lot of value with their draft. There's not one selection in there that I dislike. Kudos.
 

Soli

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Well that was ridiculous! No auto picks. No drop outs. I didn't even have to give a pep talk. Great job guys! :handclap:
 

Joey Moss

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Boston had an incredible draft.

HM: Arizona, Tampa and Pittsburgh.

Thanks, I was pretty happy with it myself. Would've liked to have a 3rd and 4th (didn't look before picking Boston), but I think Hall and Gignac could go in those rounds anyways.

One more nod for Arizona though.. My pick in the 2nd was between Hart and Pu. Wouldn't at all surprise me if Pu goes before Hart.
 

bzur

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I like my draft the best.... but probably only because I only recognize 1 or 2 names in each other teams drafts. Haha

Based on the players that I looked at closely I really liked Carolina and Ottawa's drafts
 

PKSpecialist

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If I'm the Vancouver Canucks I am very happy with this draft. They started by drafting 3 defenseman, all of whom I had rated higher than where they were drafted. I think Chychrun, Hajek and Lindgren are all going to become solid two-way defenders in this league. Add Gudbranson and Tanev and they have the makings of a really solid defensive unit for years. Kopecks is a solid fourth round pick as well. Not a fan of their last 3 picks, but it's a poor depth draft anyways. I think they knocked the early rounds out of the park.

Honourable mention to Toronto. Other than Victor Mete(who I have rated as a 3rd rounder and was drafted in the 1st) they made some really solid picks.
 
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bzur

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I don't know if everyone had the same problem as me, but I thought it was crazy how different rankings were for a lot of players were depending on which site you used for reference. I would usually look for 5 guys for a pick based on rankings and research them. I printed off a list from one site just to cross off guys when they had been picked but wouldn't use it for picks.. some of the guys in our second round were 5th or 6th there and the opposite was true as well. Not easy when you're not sure if you're reaching with a pick or getting a huge steal..

Still stoked I got Kerwin in the 7th. Don't care that he might have been the biggest faller given that I found early top 30's with him and even one where he was 3rd overall a couple years ago. In the 7th that's worth the risk
 

Fixed to Ruin

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I don't know if everyone had the same problem as me, but I thought it was crazy how different rankings were for a lot of players were depending on which site you used for reference. I would usually look for 5 guys for a pick based on rankings and research them. I printed off a list from one site just to cross off guys when they had been picked but wouldn't use it for picks.. some of the guys in our second round were 5th or 6th there and the opposite was true as well. Not easy when you're not sure if you're reaching with a pick or getting a huge steal..

Still stoked I got Kerwin in the 7th. Don't care that he might have been the biggest faller given that I found early top 30's with him and even one where he was 3rd overall a couple years ago. In the 7th that's worth the risk

I faced that exact problem.

For example my first pick with the Islanders was Markus Niemeläinen at 21. He was ranked anywhere between 20-75 depending on where you looked. However, my gut feeling was that probably anything below 40 is too low. NHL GMs usually drool over 6'5 defenseman that can skate despite their flaws in other areas of their game so i felt comfortable taking him in the high end of the draft.

However, with the lack of depth in this years draft, once we got past 60 the rankings were all over the place.

I remember listening to Craig Button every year around draft time and the standard "This guy is ranked here" question comes up. Craig's response is "Ranked according to who?". I think that's the best way to look at things. "Teams and scouts spend a ton of time scouting these guys, talking to them individually, ect ect.

Just do your research and take the guy you like the best, don't worry what a bunch of snooty reporters at the hockey news think or what the generic central scouting list says about your guy.

Also, imo drafting is the easy part. Development is the hard part and way more important than where a guy is selected on draft day. Oilers are figuring this out the hard way unfortunately.
 

BoldNewLettuce

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I faced that exact problem.

For example my first pick with the Islanders was Markus Niemeläinen at 21. He was ranked anywhere between 20-75 depending on where you looked. However, my gut feeling was that probably anything below 40 is too low. NHL GMs usually drool over 6'5 defenseman that can skate despite their flaws in other areas of their game so i felt comfortable taking him in the high end of the draft.

However, with the lack of depth in this years draft, once we got past 60 the rankings were all over the place.

I remember listening to Craig Button every year around draft time and the standard "This guy is ranked here" question comes up. Craig's response is "Ranked according to who?". I think that's the best way to look at things. "Teams and scouts spend a ton of time scouting these guys, talking to them individually, ect ect.

Just do your research and take the guy you like the best, don't worry what a bunch of snooty reporters at the hockey news think or what the generic central scouting list says about your guy.

Also, imo drafting is the easy part. Development is the hard part and way more important than where a guy is selected on draft day. Oilers are figuring this out the hard way unfortunately.

I like Niemelainen too... probably would have taken him over Bastian in my draft.

Whats everyones take on....Bastian vs. Mascherin, I took both but they are conundrums to me. Bastians season was up and down but he was also part of the best line in the OHL. Mascherin was more consistant and a better scorer but doesn't have the physical skillset of Bastian so maybe you could question if he translates to the NHL as easily.

In any case.....I think I could have flipped my 26th and 36th picks and no one would have said a thing.
 

Raab

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I faced that exact problem.

For example my first pick with the Islanders was Markus Niemeläinen at 21. He was ranked anywhere between 20-75 depending on where you looked. However, my gut feeling was that probably anything below 40 is too low. NHL GMs usually drool over 6'5 defenseman that can skate despite their flaws in other areas of their game so i felt comfortable taking him in the high end of the draft.

However, with the lack of depth in this years draft, once we got past 60 the rankings were all over the place.

I remember listening to Craig Button every year around draft time and the standard "This guy is ranked here" question comes up. Craig's response is "Ranked according to who?". I think that's the best way to look at things. "Teams and scouts spend a ton of time scouting these guys, talking to them individually, ect ect.

Just do your research and take the guy you like the best, don't worry what a bunch of snooty reporters at the hockey news think or what the generic central scouting list says about your guy.

Also, imo drafting is the easy part. Development is the hard part and way more important than where a guy is selected on draft day. Oilers are figuring this out the hard way unfortunately.

Yep same problem. Guys were ranked all over the board depending where you looked. I tried to watch video on most of my picks but some like Wouter Peeters are completely off other scouting reports. One thing nice about guys playing in the CHL or junior A here in Canada is that you can usually find video on them.
 

PKSpecialist

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I don't know if everyone had the same problem as me, but I thought it was crazy how different rankings were for a lot of players were depending on which site you used for reference. I would usually look for 5 guys for a pick based on rankings and research them. I printed off a list from one site just to cross off guys when they had been picked but wouldn't use it for picks.. some of the guys in our second round were 5th or 6th there and the opposite was true as well. Not easy when you're not sure if you're reaching with a pick or getting a huge steal..

Still stoked I got Kerwin in the 7th. Don't care that he might have been the biggest faller given that I found early top 30's with him and even one where he was 3rd overall a couple years ago. In the 7th that's worth the risk

I am a bit of a draft junkie(huge understatement) so I have my own rankings. Currently 288 players deep. I have watched everyone of these guys(not all live obviously) and use my own viewings along with other valuable resources(scouts I know and people I trust) to formulate my rankings. Unfortunately, I haven't really narrowed in my ranking as a complete list yet. I always start by ranking players by position first.

I know that there are 2 players I have ranked that have no business going undrafted, but did in our mock. Specifically, RW Ivan Kosorenkov, a gifted goal scorer from Team Russia in the MHL, and G Evan Cormier from Saginaw. I know at least one NHL scout who believes Cormier is the top goalie in this year's draft. i don't necessarily agree, but he is certainly in my top 10 goalies and should be drafted this year IMO.

I, unfortunately, didn't have enough picks to draft either of these players without deviating from my draft strategy.
 

BarDownBobo

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I faced that exact problem.

For example my first pick with the Islanders was Markus Niemeläinen at 21. He was ranked anywhere between 20-75 depending on where you looked. However, my gut feeling was that probably anything below 40 is too low. NHL GMs usually drool over 6'5 defenseman that can skate despite their flaws in other areas of their game so i felt comfortable taking him in the high end of the draft.

However, with the lack of depth in this years draft, once we got past 60 the rankings were all over the place.

I remember listening to Craig Button every year around draft time and the standard "This guy is ranked here" question comes up. Craig's response is "Ranked according to who?". I think that's the best way to look at things. "Teams and scouts spend a ton of time scouting these guys, talking to them individually, ect ect.

Just do your research and take the guy you like the best, don't worry what a bunch of snooty reporters at the hockey news think or what the generic central scouting list says about your guy.

Also, imo drafting is the easy part. Development is the hard part and way more important than where a guy is selected on draft day. Oilers are figuring this out the hard way unfortunately.

Neimalainen is one of the more interesting guys in the draft for me. A lot of scouts seem to rave about him a lot, but I've never been that impressed when I've got the opportunity to see him play. He was outplayed by Vaakanainen, Valimaki and Jokiharju at the U18s imo, and all three of them are 2017 draftees(although Vaakanainen is one of the best Finnish D prospects ever so that's not too surprising).
 

Raab

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I am a bit of a draft junkie(huge understatement) so I have my own rankings. Currently 288 players deep. I have watched everyone of these guys(not all live obviously) and use my own viewings along with other valuable resources(scouts I know and people I trust) to formulate my rankings. Unfortunately, I haven't really narrowed in my ranking as a complete list yet. I always start by ranking players by position first.

I know that there are 2 players I have ranked that have no business going undrafted, but did in our mock. Specifically, RW Ivan Kosorenkov, a gifted goal scorer from Team Russia in the MHL, and G Evan Cormier from Saginaw. I know at least one NHL scout who believes Cormier is the top goalie in this year's draft. i don't necessarily agree, but he is certainly in my top 10 goalies and should be drafted this year IMO.

I, unfortunately, didn't have enough picks to draft either of these players without deviating from my draft strategy.

Have you seen Wouter Peeters? Be interested in hearing your opinion. He's out of a non traditional hockey country but has great size and has performed well from everything I've heard.
 

PKSpecialist

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Have you seen Wouter Peeters? Be interested in hearing your opinion. He's out of a non traditional hockey country but has great size and has performed well from everything I've heard.

No. He's one of the guys I would have loved to have seen, but haven't gotten around to it. To be honest I have my doubts he gets drafted. Scouts and GM's like known commodities better at the goaltending position. They will more than likely wait for Peeters to play for Jokerit next year where it will be much easier for them to project him... That said, anything is possible. I haven't seen him(and have yet to talk to a scout who discussed him). There is very little info out there about Peeters, other than central scouting ranking him.
 

DrDrai

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Jan 28, 2007
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If I'm the Vancouver Canucks I am very happy with this draft. They started by drafting 3 defenseman, all of whom I had rated higher than where they were drafted. I think Chychrun, Hajek and Lindgren are all going to become solid two-way defenders in this league. Add Gudbranson and Tanev and they have the makings of a really solid defensive unit for years. Kopecks is a solid fourth round pick as well. Not a fan of their last 3 picks, but it's a poor depth draft anyways. I think they knocked the early rounds out of the park.

Honourable mention to Toronto. Other than Victor Mete(who I have rated as a 3rd rounder and was drafted in the 1st) they made some really solid picks.

Thanks, my last 3 picks were not researched at all because I'm working long hours and noticed I was otc haha. The defence is what I was going for, I think if they are going to compete in the division they need to stop other offenses
 

ChaoticOrange

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I'll throw a shoutout to Toronto, I liked their draft a lot - in the sense he stole a lot of guys before I could get to them :laugh: but some really solid drafts all around, and some pretty decent players left on the table too. Just like real GM's.
 

PKSpecialist

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1. (3) RW - Jesse Puljujarvi - 6'3,200 - Karpat, Liiga - Two way forward has great instincts in the offensive zone without sacrificing his defensive duties.
2. (34) LW - Brett Howden - 6'2,193 - Moose Jaw Warriors, WHL - Another power forward who has good playmaking ability in the offensive zone, but knows his responsibilities in his own zone as well.
3. (64) D - Jacob Moverare - 6'2,198 - HV 71 J20, SuperElit - Extremely smart and poised defender never panics in his own zone. Shows great IQ and control in defending. He has offensive upside that is limited by his skating right now. Improve the skating, and the sky is the limit.
6. (154) C - Vasili Glotov - 5'11,159 - St. Petersburg, MHL - Hard working pivot is exceptional offensively, coming off an impressive 1.3 PPG pace. He will need to add weight and strength to his game to translate to the North American style.
7. (184) RW - Daniel Kurovsky - 6'3,198 - HC Vitkovice U20, Czech U20 - Massive winger knows his role and gets to the dirty areas to put the puck in the net. He needs to work on his skating, but with his size and drive he is a solid late round prospect.

I came into this draft knowing that the Blue Jackets only had 5 picks and made a conscious decision to only take a goaltender if one fell hard. I also thought that following last years draft where the Jackets selected six defenders, and two in the first round, that the focus needed to be on offense, specifically center. Unfortunately, I couldn't pass on Puljujarvi, and I have Howden rated in the mid-20's and he fell to me in the second round. Couldn't go off my board just to focus on the center position. I think Moverare in the third round is great value. I have him in the early second on my board. Glotov is the wildcard at center. He put up impressive numbers in the MHL. If he grows to 6'0,200 he could carve out a career in the league. Kurovsky was a solid gamble in the last round. All in all, I would have liked to add a center earlier, but couldn't pass on the players I took.


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3. (82) RW - Yegor Korshkov - 6'4,179 - Lokomotiv Yaroslavl, KHL - Massive winger showed the ability to completely dominate shifts at the World Junior Championship. He is a powerful skater with the ability to take the puck to the net.
4. (97) C/LW - Matt Filipe - 6'2,203 - Cedar Rapids Rough Riders, USHL - Power forward makes the game look easy. He is a solid skater and has an NHL ready shot.
5. (142) C - Igor Svyrev - 6'0,192 - Magnitogorsk, MHL - Playmaking center is an excellent passer and is good at creating offense.
6. (172) D - Chase Priskie - 6'0,192 - Quinnipiac, NCAA - Puckmoving defenseman picks his spots well on offense. He has a solid stick and anticipation skills in his own zone.
7. (202) D - Vojtech Zelenak - 6'5,214 - HC Sparta Praha U20, Czech U20 - Massive defender plays a mean physical style and doesn't panic under pressure. He skates well and has a big point shot.

It's very difficult to come away with a great haul when you only have five picks, and the first one is 82nd overall. I tried to have a balanced draft to add size and skill offensively, while taking a risk on a few defenders with high upside. I made a conscious decision pre-draft not to take a goaltender unless one fell to the point I couldn't resist based on the fact that the Rangers are high on Huska, and short on skater's in their system.
 

Raab

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No. He's one of the guys I would have loved to have seen, but haven't gotten around to it. To be honest I have my doubts he gets drafted. Scouts and GM's like known commodities better at the goaltending position. They will more than likely wait for Peeters to play for Jokerit next year where it will be much easier for them to project him... That said, anything is possible. I haven't seen him(and have yet to talk to a scout who discussed him). There is very little info out there about Peeters, other than central scouting ranking him.

I dunno, he's got everything you'd want in a goalie from what Ive heard. Good size and athleticism. Also worth noting thats he's super young and doesn't turn 18 until July 31st. I read an article by USA today saying more and more scouts were showing up to watch his games. Noted that they had 15 scouts in the stands for one of the tournaments he was playing in, and it wasn't just local guys but guys from Sweden and Finland as well. So who knows, definitely not out of the realm of possibility that he doesn't get drafted. I just think some team will take a flyer on him given his size and how young he is. Also stated in the article they expect he'll be coming over to play in the USHL next year.

Also if your hear or see anything about him, and wouldn't mind passing it on. I'd love to know what guys who've actually seen this guy think.
 

Raab

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I like my draft the best.... but probably only because I only recognize 1 or 2 names in each other teams drafts. Haha

Based on the players that I looked at closely I really liked Carolina and Ottawa's drafts

Missed this earlier but thanks for the props.
 

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