Brock said:The problem is, we don't have enough space to write about all these things. We can't talk about one single player for a few sentences. The write ups were supposed to be short blurbs that covered the jist of the organization on a whole. In terms of Kahnberg, we can't say he's a strength. A single player isn't a strength. We were looking in terms of certain areas, such as positional, size, skill etc.
Caniacforever said:Well I agree that a single player shouldn't be harped on as a strength, but to not see Trojovsky's name, when he is one of the best defensive prospects we have, was a little confusing to me. Especially when I see the names of players like Jesse Lane mentioned, when he is clearly out of the plans at the moment sort of like R.J. Umberger in Vancouver.
Also, Nordgren not being mentioned as well as Kahnberg being seen as almost an afterthought made me wonder the extent that the Carolina prospects were researched. I know that nobody was paid to do this, but in the name of accuracy it would have been more comforting to see these inclusions.
However, great job. I know it's difficult to come across information on Carolina prospects as well so I can't be all that mad. Thanks for the effort, regardless of how I feel about the finished product.
Brock said:I wrote the write up for the Carolina one, and I research my prospects pretty well.
Regardless of what Jesse Lane is doing right now, IMO he still deserves mention. I was a big fan of his play in the QMJHL last year and he was a solid selection. In the longer version of my write up, I had mentioned Lane because of the reason i said the Canes had some good powerpplay defenseman prospects, such as Danny Richmond or Jesse Lane. That's the real reason i mentioned Lane, but the write up was rightfullu edited and shortened.
I had considered naming Trojovsky, but didn't And yes I did read about what he did at training camp. But I still felt that the players I mentioned were better prospects than Trojovsky currently and I stick by that. Everyone has their own opinion.
And in regards of Kahnberg and not really being mentioned and what not, the weaknesses portion of my write up was shortened considerably. Like I said we only have so much room for the write ups and we tried to make them flow as best as possible (with a different writer taking each division). I mentioned Kahnberg and his emergence in the weaknesses part. This is taking from the write up i submitted for shortening....."Mike Zigomanis and Tomas Kurka are looking to be possible longshots at NHL careers. Swedish forward Magnus Kahnberg has really come out of nowhere to develop into an excellent and underrated prospect, but he alone can’t cure what ails them. The Hurricanes also lack a top defensive prospect. While they have good depth, guys like Malec or Richmond aren’t likely to be stud, potential number one defenseman."
Caniacforever said:Well, I apologize with my assertation that the prospects weren't researched to the proper extent. It seems my beef is more with the editor of the list than the writer. I honestly didn't mean to question your ability to determine the prospects that were worth mentioning and the ones that weren't. I just found it kind of indicative of the state of the Hurricanes that nobody seemed to mention our best prospects in depth. But now that is cleared up, and there is a reason you were writing and I was reading it.
As I said earlier, Thanks for the time spent researching these guys. We'll take any publicity we can get.
Brock said:Well the editor did a very good job too IMO. He had a hard task in trying to please all of us who wrote the articles. It's just tough to pleas everyone. Some of the write ups ended up being longer than others, and well flow is important for the way we completed this project. So we couldn't have articles for some teams twice as long as some others. So some teams saw some material clipped and others saw some added. It was a necessary two way street really.
We just try to please you guys as much as possible
Hockeycrazed07 said:Very much agreed. You're probably one of few that thinks his team is pretty high.
~Crazed.
degroat said:When the Blues' best two forward prospects weren't even mentioned in the evaluation of the organization (Sejna, Zakharov) it makes it really hard for me to put much into the rankings...
flyers guy said:One other thing, I really don't agree with this statement regarding the Flyers:
Clearly Philadelphia relies on their ability to fill the holes in the organization by taking advantage of the free agent market rather than building through the draft.
The only recent major FA signings by the Flyers were Roenick and Hackett (you could probably also count Amonte, as he was pretty much a salary dump.) The rest of the players were either drafted by the Flyers, or were acquired by trading players/picks/prospects. Clarke's good drafting and his stockpiling of picks allowed him to make these trades, it certainly hasn't been mainly through the FA route. The Flyers are clearly guilty of overpaying their players, but I think a lot of people equate overpaying players with buying a team, (NYR) when they really are two seperate issues.
Vlad The Impaler said:And I don't think a guy currently struggling in *the AHL* would change that.
Herby said:When one of your top 2 forward prospects is a 24 year old player wirh 4 goals in 28 games in the AHL you know your in trouble. Sejna has been a massive bust, both in St. Louis and Worcester, what he did for CC last year or how many teams wanted to sign him means nothing. And as the other poster said, he isn't a kid, he is a 24 year old.
210 said:When Peter Sejna arrived in Worcester after 18 games with the St. Louis Blues, the rookie appeared totally shell-shocked and lacking confidence. If Sejna’s progress continues along its present path what they'll get back in St. Louis will be a bona-fide NHL left wing. In just the last three weeks Sejna has made huge strides in his game. He is now skating with the confidence he showed in his NHL debut last season when he beat the Avalanche's Patrick Roy to score his first NHL goal.
SmokeyClause said:Just a quick question. Is the reason FLA dropped because certain players graduated/devalued over the course of a half season? Is that the biggest difference between preseason and now or is it a thorough reevaluation.
DR. Holiday said:Caniacforever MADE some great points but it is clear that you don't want to hear it. As you say you can't please everyone but his points on Lane are very valid and it would have been a benifit to the article if you had of mentioned a "top" prospect going off the rails like he did.
zetterberg40 said:awesome! detroit doesnt make the 21-30 list... glad to see we are finally getting recognized for some good scouting..
although i dont see us past 15th
RichPanther said:I can't complain too much about the list...I mean you look at the players that were in some of these organizations before the season started. Horton for FL, Pitkanen for Philly, Staal for Carolina, Hunter for NYI, just to mention a few players that are having an impact in the NHL right now.