Here's why Quenneville still sux

Would you swap out Joel Quenneville for Bill Peters?


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Panzerspitze

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Here's a thought on Panarin and you-know-who. If the former could muster 82 pts (as reported on this forum) by himself playing with the group of Columbus forwards some posters here aren't so impressed by, it's another idictment of Quenneville, for "wasting" him on the same line as Kane (not to mention increasingly turning Panarin into a one-trick pony offensively). Sure Quenneville tried him with Toews and it didn't work. So why not have Panarin [carry] on a third line, achieving even more of the proverbial "balance" across the lines?
 

ClydeLee

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Here's a thought on Panarin and you-know-who. If the former could muster 82 pts (as reported on this forum) by himself playing with the group of Columbus forwards some posters here aren't so impressed by, it's another idictment of Quenneville, for "wasting" him on the same line as Kane (not to mention increasingly turning Panarin into a one-trick pony offensively). Sure Quenneville tried him with Toews and it didn't work. So why not have Panarin [carry] on a third line, achieving even more of the proverbial "balance" across the lines?
They did a bit to lesser time.

But they did have the 3 line split last year... with Hossa being the 3rd line carrying force most of the year.

Though Hossa with Panarin and AA had a couple week stint doing great too early on
 

Pez68

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It was pretty clear that Panarin and Kane were the two most dangerous players on this team. Why they were never given extended stints on different lines to see if the Hawks could get two dangerous scoring lines going, I don't know.

There are just some things the Q Random Line Generator doesn't account for... Like Schmaltz and Kane split up this season... Or DeBrincat playing with Kane....
 
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AmericanDream

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It was pretty clear that Panarin and Kane were the two most dangerous players on this team. Why they were never given extended stints on different lines to see if the Hawks could get two dangerous scoring lines going, I don't know.

There are just some things the Q Random Line Generator doesn't account for... Like Schmaltz and Kane split up this season... Or DeBrincat playing with Kane....
would have been nice to see a few games of:

Saad - Toews - Schmaltz
DeBrincat - Anisimov - Kane

if you wanted to generate more offense, but Cat with Kane seems logical, and giving Toews someone creative like Schmaltz looked good at times last year...
 

coolhand

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would have been nice to see a few games of:

Saad - Toews - Schmaltz
DeBrincat - Anisimov - Kane

if you wanted to generate more offense, but Cat with Kane seems logical, and giving Toews someone creative like Schmaltz looked good at times last year...

I agree on that second line. Cat would have been a great replacement for Panarin, and that line worked for the Hawks last year.
 

ChiHawk21

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now after having the most dominant line in hockey and winning the west it was Qs fault for not putting kane and panarin no different lines. why would you split apart what works?
 

CallMeShaft

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now after having the most dominant line in hockey and winning the west it was Qs fault for not putting kane and panarin no different lines. why would you split apart what works?
Because it didn't "work" for the other lines. We were a one line team that season.

Sure, it would've been nice if Toews could hold his own, but he didn't. But we now know, with certainty, that Panarin would've been just fine without Kane. Splitting the two up would've done wonders for our depth.
 

Pez68

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Because it didn't "work" for the other lines. We were a one line team that season.

Sure, it would've been nice if Toews could hold his own, but he didn't. But we now know, with certainty, that Panarin would've been just fine without Kane. Splitting the two up would've done wonders for our depth.

I can't believe this even needs to be explained. The ignorance on this forum has skyrocketed in the last few months. My ignore list is going to grow quite quickly at this rate.
 

zac

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It was pretty clear that Panarin and Kane were the two most dangerous players on this team. Why they were never given extended stints on different lines to see if the Hawks could get two dangerous scoring lines going, I don't know.

There are just some things the Q Random Line Generator doesn't account for... Like Schmaltz and Kane split up this season... Or DeBrincat playing with Kane....

Yup. Q is absolute garbage at getting the most out of his lines/team. And when he does get it right? He changes it for no apparent reason whatsoever (like Bickell in the POs that one year).

Toews sucking balls is/was a problem and that's not Q's fault. But for people to ignore Q's rampant idiocy based on that alone? Preposterous.
 
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