TSN: Habs Reluctant to trade Shaw

[lamp9post]

The center we might get if we trade Paccioretty would be young, around 18 and would have to make the nhl step with the big team. Or wait 2 years or 3 when that project center will be nhl ready. Are you willing to give the #1 or #2 center spot next year to a 18y or 19y player?

No, we should shelter and develop our young players, especially at 18/19 years old. No need to throw them to the wolves next year (unless developing at the NHL level is in the best interest of their long-term development). We can sign placeholders to fill the roles until the youth emerges.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Sure.....or we can go next year with Byron centering Pacioretty, it's worked wonders for us

That's sarcasm ! But where is the solution?

 

[Shabs]

Is this a mystery? They are reluctant to trade Shaw because they won’t get NEAR what they gave up to get him. Without a good excuse, they would have to admit they screwed up which they are afraid to do.

 

[groovejuice]

No, we should shelter and develop our young players, especially at 18/19 years old. No need to throw them to the wolves next year (unless developing at the NHL level is in the best interest of their long-term development). We can sign placeholders to fill the roles until the youth emerges.

Then we'd better concentrate on European or US College prospects so they'll get some proper development and not be stunted by our coaching at every level.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

No but imagine what a different GM with a different perspective would do?

Stastny and Tavares are the only 2 centres left for UFAs. I think the Rangers are moving players to build around Tavares next year.

Stastny is a fit though. St. Louis can promote Fabbri or Sanford next year to replace him internally.

Sign Stastny and Perron. Invest $13 million in cap space. With Patches and Plekanec gone and the increase, you will have about $20 million, with Price taking up 4.

Drouin-Stastny-Perron
Lehkonen-Galchenyuk-Gallagher
Hudon-Danault-Sherbak
Byron-(Vermette?)-Shaw

That's a solid roster

Hudon-Sherbak grew together, as did Galchenyuk-Gallagher
Byron-Shaw are good friends off the ice.

A little bit of chemistry.

Still have some cap space for a d-man. Assuming Benn is traded, next GM moves on of Alzner or Schlemko with a pick for a d-man, top 4.

Say you get Vilardi, draft Veleno (hoping), and have Poehling in the system, team is moving in the right direction, draft picks at the table this year, are building blocks of the future, when I think other teams ahead of the Habs cores will be less strong. Say 20-21. Start off a new decade with hope, to end the curse.

Very good reply ! Some work on this post. I see 3 new players : Stastny, Perron and Vermette. Is it too much for Bergevin? 3 names that aren't like King, Martinsen and Ott. I wish Bergevin can bring that quality players.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

100% yes. This team needs a major culture change.

So that is a clear signal that there is a major change, for the best ...or the worst.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

No, we should shelter and develop our young players, especially at 18/19 years old. No need to throw them to the wolves next year (unless developing at the NHL level is in the best interest of their long-term development). We can sign placeholders to fill the roles until the youth emerges.

Looks like déjà vu, sign vets to fill roles until young wolves are ready. But what about the quality of the placeholders and what about their motivation?

 

[ImNeverWrong]

Is this a mystery? They are reluctant to trade Shaw because they won’t get NEAR what they gave up to get him. Without a good excuse, they would have to admit they screwed up which they are afraid to do.

Lol that's true. Bargainbin will never admit he's wrong so he will double down on his mistakes and continue tumbling down to the bottom of the standings. For example That's why galchenyuk can't move to center.

 

[Omar]

The center we might get if we trade Paccioretty would be young, around 18 and would have to make the nhl step with the big team. Or wait 2 years or 3 when that project center will be nhl ready. Are you willing to give the #1 or #2 center spot next year to a 18y or 19y player?

You’re not going to get a #1C for Pacioretty so that’s the only option.

 

[lamp9post]

Then we'd better concentrate on European or US College prospects so they'll get some proper development and not be stunted by our coaching at every level.

Hey, the more dice-rolls we have at a quality prospect, the better. Particularly when we're rebuilding (hopefully that's what we're doing) we should be more attractive to unsigned prospects because we have NHL spots potentially available.

 

[lamp9post]

Looks like déjà vu, sign vets to fill roles until young wolves are ready. But what about the quality of the placeholders and what about their motivation?

What do you mean by deja vu?

The placeholders will be motivated to make the best of the prime ice-time they'll be afforded if they sign with us. As an example, do you think a guy like Bozak could do better than to get a #1C job with us? Do you not think it would be in his best interest to give his best efforts in such circumstances?

 

[groovejuice]

Hey, the more dice-rolls we have at a quality prospect, the better. Particularly when we're rebuilding (hopefully that's what we're doing) we should be more attractive to unsigned prospects because we have NHL spots potentially available.

I guess sometimes it's a benefit to be miserable, unsuccessful and short on talent.

 

[lamp9post]

I guess sometimes it's a benefit to be miserable, unsuccessful and short on talent.

Haha, yes! It's not an ideal place to be in, but while we're here we should make the best of it. We do (or should) have a competitive advantage when it comes to recruiting unsigned C prospects because they have a better chance at an NHL job here than they might have on other teams.