Discussion in 'The Business of Hockey' started by HF2002, Feb 17, 2005.
No formal talks have taken place.
Has talked to Doan (player rep for Yotes) and Mario though.
- no formal conversations between players and league
- only player he's spoken to is Doan
- he and Lemieux have not been involved at all
- players may be showing today that they want to make a deal so they can get back to playing
- some season is better than nothing, playing for Cup is better than nothing
- commented that Bettman did leave that window open based on what Bettman said in the PC yesterday
Saying Bettman's deal of $42.5 was and still is final.
In the same breath he admitted that players WERE meeting today about this.
Gretzky and Mansbridge both agree that bettman was expecting another counter offer of around 45 or 46 from the PA and that he would have probbaly opened negotiations off that again.
Well the theory that Gretzy 100% supports Bettman just went out the window for me. When he say that the commision was firm in telling him there was no movement on the cap of 42.5. He was not happy.
the entire negotiation tactic Goodenow used just cries of Stupidity.
He said "We acepted a cap because they backed off their linkage demand" Ignoring that Up intil that Time they ahd players and Reps saying they would _NEVER_ accept a cap, so why would the owners cave?
Why couldnt Goodenow, if hes such a great negotiator, tel the owners back in september "If we Accept a cap, you have to drop off the linkage demand." Hes a great negotiator isnt he.
its why David Stern just called his negotiation tactic one of the biggest mistakes in the history of sports.
I didn't read it like that..
I've seen and heard Gretzky PO'ed enough times to recognize that voice. Did he sound up beat in any way? Did he not mention being frustrated and repeated conversations with Bettman yesterday? Sorry He was way cranky.
It's not your fault.
I think you're cranky, too, but that doesn't tell me how you feel about Bettman.
I'm cranky. What do I think about Bettman?
You think he's hot?
Maybe he was telling the truth, but if he was involved in these hush hush talks I doubt he would broadcast it. Maybe that's why he was on. Maybe he wanted to quiet the rumors while he was working on getting something done.
The season has been cancelled. We are all cranky. You are implying Gretzky is cranky at Bettman. Could be. But it is not the only alternative. Or even the most likely one.
Gretzky admitted to "extensive" talks with Nash the Coyotes player rep.
Put down the pompoms and walk away from the keyboard.
Isn't it Shane Doan?
lol Nash who??? :lol
tyson nash? but perhaps he meant doan as WrightOn mentioned