Confirmed with Link: Grabner to Devils for 2nd rounder and Rykov

[Classic Devil]

It's not so much he thinks less of him as he thinks less of his chances of coming over here anytime soon.

I guess that makes sense. If we're aiming to compete in this, next, and two seasons from now, there's a reasonable chance that Rykov never makes a real contribution. But still, the kid can clearly play... I suppose I've had hopes for Rykov since we drafted him, it makes his hurt more. Especially to the goddamned Rangers.

But, again, Grabner is a good fit for us. This isn't a nothing return we're getting.

 

[AveryQuietMan]

You don't think it's too short sighted though giving up a 2nd and a top prospect?

Rags wouldn't make this deal if Rykov was staying in Russia

nah. the fact is the devils have a crazy amount of cap space. they can compensate for this loss.

rykov might not stay in russia but lets be honest. these prospects have a history of not panning out. even if he does good for them. the devils are focused on the now.

grabner signs an extension, devils sign a d to compensate for losing rykov.

he is not a prospect that would turn around the team. he could be replaced with a number of players. its a win win. rangers are taking a bit of a gamble but so are the devils.

 

[Tundra]

We snatched him from the claws of Rutherford. LOL

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

We are not in a position organizationally to make a trade like this.

I'm baffled, honestly.

We arent in a position to trade a 2nd and a KHL player?

Get out of here with this crap. We drafted 20 times the last two drafts, if you think keeping a 2nd improves this team youre just .... whatever.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

That said, at least this keeps Hayes out of the lineup

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

That said, at least this keeps Hayes out of the lineup

How so? Stafford is injured and Lappin was sent down. Unless Gibbons is expected back, Hayes is in until then.

 

[Bologna 1]

Ill trust shero, Castron and co before I trust some of the geniuses spewing out hot takes here - DD leading that charge. How many times have any of you actually seen rykov play? Gonna go out on a limb and say barely, if at all.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

We arent in a position to trade a 2nd and a KHL player?

Get out of here with this crap. We drafted 20 times the last two drafts, if you think keeping a 2nd improves this team youre just .... whatever.

Might help mote than adding Grabner ultimately, yeah.

Or what? You think Grabner makes us a Cup contender?

You're just...whatever.

 

[AveryQuietMan]

I guess that makes sense. If we're aiming to compete in this, next, and two seasons from now, there's a reasonable chance that Rykov never makes a real contribution. But still, the kid can clearly play... I suppose I've had hopes for Rykov since we drafted him, it makes his hurt more. Especially to the goddamned Rangers.

But, again, Grabner is a good fit for us. This isn't a nothing return we're getting.

the fact that the deal is with the rags is what hurts. lets be honest tho..... the devils can replace rykov with the cap space they have. he is not the next karlsson. we are in good shape here and this is an odd win win between the rags and devs. both are gambling.

 

[Ech0]

You guys think that's it for the deadline for us? Or do you think a D-man is coming our way?

 

[NJDevs26]

People have been crapping on me about Shero keeping his end of the deal he made with Hall about making the playoffs and him becoming a leader - everyone assumed he will stay cause of his interviews yet this move is for a 30-year old UFA for futures - which is what Shero said he WOULDNT DO.

This is to get Hall and the team into the playoffs to keep him happy. Ill accept all apologies for ****ting on me for saying this for some time now.

When did Shero make a deal with Hall to get into the playoffs this year? This is pure conjecture.

But I do agree the move is puzzling cause Ray's been all about the process and lowering expectations of making big rental trades. This is at the very least a gamble that Grabner's not a rental.

 

[Missionhockey]

Aside from the obvious "HOLY SHIT WE TRADED WITH THE RANGERS??!"

A 2nd and Rykov seems pretty steep. Grabner obviously has wheels but goes through long stretches of being a scrub.

 

[Cheddabombs]

We arent in a position to trade a 2nd and a KHL player?

Get out of here with this crap. We drafted 20 times the last two drafts, if you think keeping a 2nd improves this team youre just .... whatever.

Rykov is our best defenseman prospect, not just some KHL player. Yes, he wouldn't come over for a few seasons anyway but he's still a very talented player and one we could have used.

Obviously short term is good for us but how much does Grabner push the envelope?

 

[Classic Devil]

We are not in a position organizationally to make a trade like this.

I'm baffled, honestly.

I don't agree with this. Our positional depth at D isn't great prospect-wise, but Rykov is about as far from the NHL as Reilly Walsh, given his KHL contract status, and Walsh is a better prospect.

 

[Classic Devil]

Aside from the obvious "HOLY **** WE TRADED WITH THE RANGERS??!"

A 2nd and Rykov seems pretty steep. Grabner obviously has wheels but goes through long stretches of being a scrub.

We basically paid more for Grabner than we did for Johansson, but we caught Washington in a moment of weakness while the Rangers were dealing from a position of strength.

 

[OmNomNom]

i've calmed down. grabner is a great middle 6 RW option

 

[Rebel Devil]

I want to make the playoffs ... this guy should help. Hopefully they sign him long term. A buddy of mine feels Grabner has been under utilized for a while now ... not used on the powerplay, and never gets top 6 minutes. He might get a shot at both in NJ.

 

[Tundra]

Shero never loses trades. Watch Grabner resign.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

I don’t agree with the idea that we’re in no position to make this move. We didn’t move a 1st round pick. 2nd round picks are nice, but I’d rather have someone that helps us get to the playoffs. It’s been too long.

 

[RNCDevil]

People LOVE Rykov? He played in the KHL/VHL. How attached could you possibly be? Grabner is a known quantity IN the NHL. It's not cheap, a second and a prospect, but like Rico, you got to give to get. This does help the bottom 6 which is just not contributing at all, but man who knows what that second or Rykov might be.

 

[NJDevs26]

I want to make the playoffs ... this guy should help. Hopefully they sign him long term. A buddy of mine feels Grabner has been under utilized for a while now ... not used on the powerplay, and never gets top 6 minutes. He might get a shot at both in NJ.

I'm already getting PTSD imagining Grabner on the second PP unit while we still have Boyle/Zajac/Hayes on the first one.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

I don't agree with this. Our positional depth at D isn't great prospect-wise, but Rykov is about as far from the NHL as Reilly Walsh, given his KHL contract status.

Forget Rykov, I'm speaking from where are on the arc of competing. For me, I was always a stand pat this season guy. We aren't contending, and if we were going to make this type of move, Grabner wouldn't be the guy I target.

Listen, this isn't torpedoing us. It's just not a move I think moves the needle enough for me to support. I'd sooner keep both assets and see where we are next season.

 

[EnglishDevil]

Rykov was a zero value asset if he had no intention of ever joining us, money is no object for SKA so tempting him away from the KHL was always going to be difficult.

Tampa Bay practically gave Nikita Gusev to Vegas during the expansion draft, if they have no intention of ever joining your team including them in a deal is meaningless. The Rangers may have a better shot at signing him because of Buchnevich & Shestyorkin.

 

[AveryQuietMan]

Rykov is our best defenseman prospect, not just some KHL player. Yes, he wouldn't come over for a few seasons anyway but he's still a very talented player and one we could have used.

Obviously short term is good for us but how much does Grabner push the envelope?

shero is banking on a bunch. this is a win now move for the devils. say what you want but i love the confidence from the top.

 

[New Jersey]

this is not a crazy gamble