Goodenow being pushed aside?

SENSible1* · Jan 20, 2005

Neither NHL commissioner Gary Bettman nor NHLPA boss Bob Goodenow attended the five-hour session yesterday. Goodenow won't be on hand for today's session, but Bettman could be there.

From this Garrihack article .

With acknowledgment of the questionable source, does anyone feel that this development (if true) signals the beginning of the end of Bob's run with the PA?

chiavsfan · Jan 20, 2005

Could be, but I know Hotchkiss (? spelling) isn't going to be there because of a funeral. Could Bettman be taking his place for the day?

rwilson99 · Jan 20, 2005

Thunderstruck said:
From this Garrihack article .

With acknowledgment of the questionable source, does anyone feel that this development (if true) signals the beginning of the end of Bob's run with the PA?

Perhaps Mr. Goodenow should be looking for work in Russia or Europe?

SENSible1* · Jan 20, 2005

Interestingly, the Ottawa version of the article contained a different version of the paragraph in question.

Neither NHL commissioner Gary Bettman nor NHLPA boss Bob Goodenow attended the five-hour session yesterday, and they aren't expected to attend today's session -- which will be held in Toronto.

Lanny MacDonald* · Jan 20, 2005

Hopefully "aside" means "under the bus". :handclap:

Wetcoaster · Jan 20, 2005

Thunderstruck said:
From this Garrihack article .

With acknowledgment of the questionable source, does anyone feel that this development (if true) signals the beginning of the end of Bob's run with the PA?

No.

Go Flames Go* · Jan 20, 2005

He should of been fired a long time ago.

Wetcoaster · Jan 20, 2005

Makaveli_The_Don said:
He should of been fired a long time ago.

Why???????????

HF2002 · Jan 20, 2005

Wetcoaster said:
Why???????????

Because GFG has no idea what he's talking about.

Wetcoaster · Jan 20, 2005

HF2002 said:
Because GFG has no idea what he's talking about.

How so?

He seems to have done pretty well for his employers over the past 12 years and has yet to lose a face-off with the NHL.

He has a much better grasp of hockey than Bettman having been a pro as well as player agent. He has worked as a lawyer for management in labour negotiations (Unisys). He has grown the NHLPA revenues and transformed it into a very efficient and professionally run orgagnization that has manged to out-maneuver the NHL thus far.

You believe in penalizing excellence??? How very socialist of you.

s7ark · Jan 20, 2005

Oh from the players POV Goodenow is the best thing that ever happened to them. He increased their salaries a tremendous amount. He should be fired because he is ruining the game in doing so, and the players should recognize that.

Slapshot17 · Jan 20, 2005

The problem is not that there isn't a deal to be made but that the two heads of the owners and players have such animosity that they don't want to negotiate a deal. I think after this is over both Betman and Goodenow have to go. Get different people in there that are progressive thinkers, and maybe we'll never have a situation that is this bad again.

Charge_Seven · Jan 20, 2005

Wetcoaster said:
How so?

He seems to have done pretty well for his employers over the past 12 years and has yet to lose a face-off with the NHL.

He has a much better grasp of hockey than Bettman having been a pro as well as player agent. He has worked as a lawyer for management in labour negotiations (Unisys). He has grown the NHLPA revenues and transformed it into a very efficient and professionally run orgagnization that has manged to out-maneuver the NHL thus far.

You believe in penalizing excellence??? How very socialist of you.

I believe GFG stands for "Go Flames Go", the over zealous PRO-Cap flames fan.

HF2002 · Jan 20, 2005

Wetcoaster said:
How so?

He seems to have done pretty well for his employers over the past 12 years and has yet to lose a face-off with the NHL.

He has a much better grasp of hockey than Bettman having been a pro as well as player agent. He has worked as a lawyer for management in labour negotiations (Unisys). He has grown the NHLPA revenues and transformed it into a very efficient and professionally run orgagnization that has manged to out-maneuver the NHL thus far.

You believe in penalizing excellence??? How very socialist of you.

I'm 100% in agreement with you. I was referring to Go Flames Go.

Charge_Seven · Jan 20, 2005

HF2002 said:
I'm 100% in agreement with you. I was referring to Go Flames Go.

Hurray for agreements! No let's get a Collectively Bargained one...

Wetcoaster · Jan 20, 2005

s7ark said:
Oh from the players POV Goodenow is the best thing that ever happened to them. He increased their salaries a tremendous amount. He should be fired because he is ruining the game in doing so, and the players should recognize that.

Since it would have to be his employers (i.e. the players) who fire him, that is unlikely to happen since he has done what he was hired to do.

leaflover · Jan 20, 2005

Wetcoaster said:
Since it would have to be his employers (i.e. the players) who fire him, that is unlikely to happen since he has done what he was hired to do.

Exactly!
I dont know why thats so terribly difficult for so many here to comprehend. :dunno:

SENSible1* · Jan 20, 2005

leaflover said:
Exactly!
I dont know why thats so terribly difficult for so many here to comprehend.

Goodenow has served the PA well in the past.

His performance in this negotiation is likely to cost him his job.

kingsfan · Jan 20, 2005

Thunderstruck said:
Goodenow has served the PA well in the past.

His performance in this negotiation is likely to cost him his job.

The same could be said for Bettman.

Then again, Bettman could have been fired for several other things long before this as well. Maybe the owners really are just clueless.

SENSible1* · Jan 21, 2005

kingsfan said:
The same could be said for Bettman.

Then again, Bettman could have been fired for several other things long before this as well. Maybe the owners really are just clueless.

I fully expect Bettman to get the golden parachute after the deal is signed in order to help the league sell the product.

kingsfan · Jan 21, 2005

Thunderstruck said:
I fully expect Bettman to get the golden parachute after the deal is signed in order to help the league sell the product.

It would be the first sensible thing the owners have done in years

SENSible1* · Jan 21, 2005

kingsfan said:
It would be the first sensible thing the owners have done in years

I'd argue that finally figuring out how to weild their leverage, as displayed by their conduct in this dispute, was very sensible.

Son of Steinbrenner · Jan 21, 2005

goodenow has made his guys a ton of money i doubt they will just throw him out at this point.

Fish on The Sand · Jan 21, 2005

Son of Steinbrenner said:
goodenow has made his guys a ton of money i doubt they will just throw him out at this point.

he's also losing them a ton of money.

Cully9 · Jan 22, 2005

Wetcoaster said:
He has worked as a lawyer for management in labour negotiations (Unisys).

Was that where this paragon of worker's rights broke the local Teamsters?

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