Goalies

[Redwingsfan]

Harding and Price are the 2 best for my money...

Price has shown it in the WHL, and AHL.

Harding has shown it at every level including the NHL where he's been downright scary when he's got his chances. Backstrom will not hold him off too long.

and rask has shown it in the finnish league wich is a better league then both the WHL and the AHL.

IMO price, rask and harding are extremely close. it comes down to who you like the most for the 1-3 places.

 

[phtrem]

Price
Rask
Bernier
Harding
Montoya
Irving
Pogge
Schneider

 

[eddy]

tuukka rask
SVS%
2003-2004 Finland U18 WJC-18 5 1.61 .927 jr

2004-2005 Ilves SM-Liiga 4 4.46 .875 sr

Finland U20 WJC-20 5 2.96 . 902 jr

Finland U18 WJC-18 5 3.02 . 910 jr

2005-2006 Ilves SM-Liiga 30 2.09 .926 sr

Finland U20 WJC-20 6 2.11 .940 jr

2006-2007 Ilves SM-Liiga 49 2.38 .928 sr


price
League GP GAA SVS%
2002-2003 Tri-City Americans WHL 1 6.00 .857 jr

2003-2004 Tri-City Americans WHL 28 2.38 .915 jr

2004-2005 Tri-City Americans WHL 63 2.34 .920 jr

Canada U18 WJC-18 4 2.65 .894 jr

2005-2006 Tri-City Americans WHL 55 2.87 .906 jr

2006-2007 Tri-City Americans WHL 46 2.45 .917 jr

AHL Playoffs 2007
15 895 461 34 1 2.28 0.926
WJC 06/07
Price: 96.09% 1.14 GAA
Rask: 88.69% 3.43 gaa
If your gonna put up the stats include them all.

 

[phtrem]

After 14 votes, here's the ranking (8 points for the first, 7 for the second,...)

Price 102
Rask 95

Harding 73
Bernier 63
Montoya 61

Pogge 44
Irving 37
Schneider 29

Clearly, we can see three groups!

Harding, Bernier and Pogge are the three goalers on which posters have clearly different opinions.

 

[Redwingsfan]

AHL Playoffs 2007
15 895 461 34 1 2.28 0.926
WJC 06/07
Price: 96.09% 1.14 GAA
Rask: 88.69% 3.43 gaa
If your gonna put up the stats include them all.

this a discussion that will never end. you have both rask and price fans here and you can make an excellent case for both of them, they are both going to be stars in the NHL IMO. it just comes down to who you like more.

 

[eddy]

this a discussion that will never end. you have both rask and price fans here and you can make an excellent case for both of them, they are both going to be stars in the NHL IMO. it just comes down to who you like more.

Yes I agree, I feel i havn't seen enough of Rask to say who is the better keeper, I think they are definetly the top 2 in the world right now in terms prospects. I just didn't like how he was trying to prove a point by including all the stats that made Rask look good and leaving out all of Price's best stats particularily the ones in the AHL playoffs which are most imporatant as people who have been Rask>Price in this argument have been going on about how Price hasn't done anything against men, well now he has.

 

[Redwingsfan]

Yes I agree, I feel i havn't seen enough of Rask to say who is the better keeper, I think they are definetly the top 2 in the world right now in terms prospects. I just didn't like how he was trying to prove a point by including all the stats that made Rask look good and leaving out all of Price's best stats particularily the ones in the AHL playoffs which are most imporatant as people who have been Rask>Price in this argument have been going on about how Price hasn't done anything against men, well now he has.

yeah. i agree. it was pretty unfair. but i guess only time will tell who is going to be the best of them in the show

 

[SPG]

The homer HAB fan will take a crack at this!! Here goes (while adding Howard, Frazee, etc...).


1. Carey Price/Tuukka Rask (imo, both are potential franchise goalies)
2. Tuukka Rask/Carey Price
3. Josh Harding (future #1 goalie of Minnesota after solid #1 goalie Fernandez)
4. Al Montoya
5. Jonathan Bernier
6. Leland Irving
7. Jeff Frazee
8. Pavelec
9. Jimmy Howard
10. Varlamov
11. Justin Pogge
12. Cory Schneider

Wow... thats awfully high for Frazee

 

[Redwingsfan]

Wow... thats awfully high for Frazee

if i could add neuvirth i would have him around 4-5

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Tuuka Rask
Al Montoya
Carey Price
Josh Harding
Corey Schneider
Leland Irving
Jonathan Bernier
Justin Pogge

 

[winslow]

Tuuka Rask
Carey Price
Al Montoya
Josh Harding
Justin Pogge
Jonathan Bernier
Corey Schneider
Leland Irving

 

[EagleBelfour]

Carey Price
Tuukka Rask
Josh Harding
Al Montoya
Corey Schneider
Jonathan Bernier
Justin Pogge
Leland Irving

In order of goaltenders I would like to have, not in how good they are now.

 

[Joe MacMillan]

AHL Playoffs 2007
15 895 461 34 1 2.28 0.926
WJC 06/07
Price: 96.09% 1.14 GAA
Rask: 88.69% 3.43 gaa
If your gonna put up the stats include them all.

True. Rask stats in juniors.

Ilves Tampere Jr. A SM-sarja 04/05 26 27 0 0 0 34 1.86 .935
10 10 0 0 0 0 0.87 .973 (playoffs)

And this was as 17 year-old in a U-20 league.

 

[Newfie Bruin]

1.Tuukka Rask
2.Carey Price
3.Josh Harding
4.Al Montoya
5.Jonathan Bernier
6.Justin Pogge
7.Cory Schneider
8.Leland Irving

 

[Redwingsfan]

After 14 votes, here's the ranking (8 points for the first, 7 for the second,...)

Price 102
Rask 95

Harding 73
Bernier 63
Montoya 61

Pogge 44
Irving 37
Schneider 29

Clearly, we can see three groups!




Harding, Bernier and Pogge are the three goalers on which posters have clearly different opinions.

i think its time to update. rask has gotten a feaw #1 votes

 

[Mr. Hab]

Wow... thats awfully high for Frazee

Well...it's based only on what I saw at WJC (2 games), and/but I really liked what I saw in Frazee...(his style, technique).

I know it's only 2 games BUT I'm coming out clean with this!! (being honest)

I wish I could have been a professional scout so I could see (live) almost every goalie out there several times each.

Anyways...for what I saw I'd say he has a lot of potential one day (good for Rangers fans). Also...lots of time with Lundqvist there

 

[buddahsmoka1]

Carey Price
Tuuka Rask
Al Montoya
Jonathan Bernier
Josh Harding
Justin Pogge
Leland Irving
Cory Schnieder

 

[Letang fan 58]

Wow Irving gets incredibly little love around here for a guy who has absolutely torn apart the WHL for 3 straight years........he has been consistently better then Carey Price in the dub.

My list:

Carey Price
Josh Harding
Tuuka Rask
Leland Irving
Al Montoya
Jonathan Bernier
Justin Pogge
Cory Schnieder

 

[sivert]

not much. other then being one of the best goalies in the finnish league two years in a row (against men) at age 18 and 19.


IMO that's a huge accomplishment

Semen Varlamov was one of the best goalies in Russian SuperLeague at the age of 18, and almost no one mentioned him. Is that fair?

 

[Joretus]

Semen Varlamov was one of the best goalies in Russian SuperLeague at the age of 18, and almost no one mentioned him. Is that fair?

Nope, it's not. Not that I would say he is so good as Rask or have same amount of potential, BUT he is good, very promising goalie. And thank god for Russia that they are having so potential goalie coming up in ages. And isn't Semen 19 already, turned like month ago or so... just making it straight.

 

[Redwingsfan]

Semen Varlamov was one of the best goalies in Russian SuperLeague at the age of 18, and almost no one mentioned him. Is that fair?

no its not. but i think a lot of people here have trouble following him. stats for russian players are hard to find if you dont know russian and obviously not a lot of people here watch the RSL on a regular basis.

 

[sivert]

Nope, it's not. Not that I would say he is so good as Rask or have same amount of potential, BUT he is good, very promising goalie. And thank god for Russia that they are having so potential goalie coming up in ages. And isn't Semen 19 already, turned like month ago or so... just making it straight.

I was talking about the season, when he was 18. Now he's 19, that's right

I never said he was better than Rask. And never thought so. But he is a year younger.

I think Rask, Price an Montoya are definitely better prospects right now, but Semen can easily be compared to Harding, Irving, Pogge, Schwarz and in Varlamov's favor.

no its not. but i think a lot of people here have trouble following him. stats for russian players are hard to find if you dont know russian and obviously not a lot of people here watch the RSL on a regular basis.

The most important thing about him is that he is very consistent for his age. I've never seen that consistency (from russian goalie) since Nabokov play for Dynamo Moscow. Bryzgalov was not even close, for example

 

[Redwingsfan]

I was talking about the season, when he was 18. Now he's 19, that's right

I never said he was better than Rask. And never thought so. But he is a year younger.

I think Rask, Price an Montoya are definitely better prospects right now, but Semen can easily be compared to Harding, Irving, Pogge, Schwarz and in Varlamov's favor.



The most important thing about him is that he is very consistent for his age. I've never seen that consistency (from russian goalie) since Nabokov play for Dynamo Moscow. Bryzgalov was not even close, for example

i see. the only thing i have seen from varlamov this season is the WJC where he was great. i cant wait for the battle between him and neuvirth.

 

[nuckfan insk]

How would you rank these goalie prospects ?

Carey Price
Tuukka Rask
Leland Irving
Jonathan Bernier
Justin Pogge
Cory Schneider
Josh Harding
Al Montoya

carey price
josh harding
tuukka rask
cory schneider
jon bernier
al montoya
leland irving
justin pogge

 

[Vatican Roulette]

How would you rank these goalie prospects ?

Carey Price
Tuukka Rask
Leland Irving
Jonathan Bernier
Justin Pogge
Cory Schneider
Josh Harding
Al Montoya

Tuukka Rask
Carey Price
Leland Irving
Josh Harding
Jonathan Bernier
Al Montoya
Cory Schneider
Justin Pogge