thestonedkoala
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If Skalde felt that Guerin did play a part, don't you think he would've made mention of that and included Guerin as a defendant in the suit?
No, because it's a wrongful termination lawsuit that ultimately had nothing to do with Guerin as he was gone from the organization. However, they did bring up allegations that the Pens organization knew about Donatelli's behavior and ignored it, but they accused the entire Pens organization of that (which Guerin was apart of at the time). But that isn't the focus of the case. This is a great slight of hand by the Pens and by fans, because as predicted this story dropped out of the headlines within a week.
Finally, this shouldn't be something that is brought up in a court case, but something that the NHL should dig into and verify (like, you know reporters?) If an organization hid the behavior, unintentionally or intentionally, a guy like Donatelli, they should investigate it and see why it happened and how to fix it.
Look at what happened with Bill Peters and Mike Babcock. There was no civil suite or even litigation when they were both canned. And Babcock was quite popular.
Yeah, from the limited reading and listening I have heard on this was that Guerin isn't even a focus in the lawsuit. The lawsuit mentions thatSkalde went to Guerin and Guerin said he would handle this.
THIS. ISN'T. ABOUT. THE. LAWSUIT.
This is about the allegations brought up in the lawsuit, which is TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
If I go to my boss, and tell him that someone is embezzling money from the company, and has a history of stealing and lying, and has stolen from the company before, and the person I reported it to knew about it and ignored it; then later I was let go from my job, and then I turn around and sue them, you think it's okay even if my lawsuit has no merit to completely ignore the fact that the person I reported it to didn't look into previous reports?
No one is saying Guerin is guilty of anything, or even the Pens did anything wrong in any of this case, but it would be nice to know if the NHL launched an investigation into some of the reports that the Skalde's brought up. This isn't about a criminal case, this is making sure that the work place is non-hostile work environment.
There seems to be two constant directions people are trying to go in this thread. There's the direction that some want to just talk about the lawsuit and only focus on what the lawsuit is about. And in contrast, there's a lot more other people want to point out about more of what is said or implicated in the lawsuits allegations.
I don't know of anyone posters here who were acting like this is unquestionable true and the timetable of the Penguins knowing and doing nothing to Donatelli is certain. But it is a point of contention, but some people ignore it because sure in all likelyhood nothing at all will come of that. None of that will be even likely looked into because it isn't what this suit is about. But that being ignored is what is the troubling part. Even if something through the suit came that pushed there to being evidence of other allegations, is there likely any independent or NHL investigation likely to occur, No. And maybe the Penguins did have things structurally well kept, but only discovered things in that short investigation after Skalde told them what happened or maybe those aren't true. But those are all things apart of the situation and culture beyond just the termination case or the keep quiet line.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
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