GDT: Game 1: Avs @ Rangers - Thursday, October 5th, 5pm MT - We Get Hockey Again!

Bender

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I didn't see anyone mention it but did anyone notice who Bednar had out there with 2 minutes left down by only 1 goal?
Mackinnon centering Matt "3 Minors" Nieto and Blake "holy crap I haven't gotten a minor yet" Comeau...

Seriously? lol
 

Freudian

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Rangers had more and better scoring chances last night but Avs don't have anything to apologize for. The goalie is part of the team and Lundqvist have bailed out Rangers on so many nights. Works both ways. Avs created enough scoring chances to win. Avs could have had a couple more goals, as could Rangers.
 
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Cousin Eddie

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:laugh: Lindholm being sent down to begin with was probably noting more than a way to maneuver the roster deadline so we could waive Colborne immediately after.
No way, it had more to do with the 13 trades we were pulling off.

But yeah, they wanted to send Colby down I guess but couldn't because he hadn't cleared at that point
 

Freudian

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I didn't see anyone mention it but did anyone notice who Bednar had out there with 2 minutes left down by only 1 goal?
Mackinnon centering Matt "3 Minors" Nieto and Blake "holy crap I haven't gotten a minor yet" Comeau...

Seriously? lol

Bednar seems to have more faith in MacKinnon's defense than I do. Had him out there on the PK as well.
 

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Well you're trying to argue that the Avs weren't outplayed at ES last night which is legitimately delusional so what else do you expect me to say? It would be dumb of me to continue to argue.

And you can only spew shot stats without critically thinking about the events. The Avs were ahead most of that game, did you want them to pinch in more, to forecheck harder...

If the Avs were outshot and were the team that was down the majority of the game, that would be different. But go ahead and trust those shot stats as your only marker.
 

Cousin Eddie

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And you can only spew shot stats without critically thinking about the events. The Avs were ahead most of that game, did you want them to pinch in more, to forecheck harder...

If the Avs were outshot and were the team that was down the majority of the game, that would be different. But go ahead and trust those shot stats as your only marker.
As much as you want to believe the Avs played a "protect the lead" game like it was 4-0 in 2003, that simply wasn't the case. They only held a 2 goal lead for 7 minutes. They didn't change their style or system. They got outplayed at ES. Not by a massive amount or anything, but they got outplayed which is all I've been saying.
 

CharlesPuck

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As much as you want to believe the Avs played a "protect the lead" game like it was 4-0 in 2003, that simply wasn't the case. They only held a 2 goal lead for 7 minutes. They didn't change their style or system. They got outplayed at ES. Not by a massive amount or anything, but they got outplayed which is all I've been saying.

And a 1 goal lead for the entire third period...
 

S3rkie

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It's 2017. Who in the hell sits back on a one goal lead? Plus even if they did "protect the lead" (they didn't) that doesn't just mean that they didn't get outplayed.
While I agree with you that they got outplayed at various points in the game, I don't think it was all entirely on the Avs, a lot of it was on silly turnovers, bad puck managment. But also the game was so choppy because of the refs, it seemed like every time a team was building momentum the refs would inject themselves into the game. It didn't feel like there was much flow on either side throughout the majority of last night.
 

Bender

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Rangers had more and better scoring chances last night but Avs don't have anything to apologize for. The goalie is part of the team and Lundqvist have bailed out Rangers on so many nights. Works both ways. Avs created enough scoring chances to win. Avs could have had a couple more goals, as could Rangers.

Agreed. Duchene could have scored on the spin pass from Teri, Rants had a clear breakaway and Bigras hit the post.

Rangers' announcers were making it seem like every single shot from the top of the circle was massively dangerous when the majority ended up in routine saves for Varly.

What I liked was that we didn't seem to get pinned in our own end for long stretches like we used to. When we did, the clears were there but there were a lot of misses on that front and they need to clean that up.
 

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Agreed. Duchene could have scored on the spin pass from Teri, Rants had a clear breakaway and Bigras hit the post.

Rangers' announcers were making it seem like every single shot from the top of the circle was massively dangerous when the majority ended up in routine saves for Varly.

What I liked was that we didn't seem to get pinned in our own end for long stretches like we used to. When we did, the clears were there but there were a lot of misses on that front and they need to clean that up.
I have a feeling the failed clearing attempts should be less prominent as the season goes on. Especially for the left over guys from last year, they are probably still in their heads while defending scared to make the wrong play and just overthinking things. Once the season is older and acts more as a pallet cleanser the panic and nerves should fade.
 

CharlesPuck

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It's 2017. Who in the hell sits back on a one goal lead? Plus even if they did "protect the lead" (they didn't) that doesn't just mean that they didn't get outplayed.

Wow, so now they didn't protect the lead in third. Remind me, how many goals did the Rangers score in the third? Did the Avs ever lose the lead?

So glad you know the Avs gameplay and strategy so well!
 

Cousin Eddie

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Wow, so now they didn't protect the lead in third. Remind me, how many goals did the Rangers score in the third? Did the Avs ever lose the lead?

So glad you know the Avs gameplay and strategy so well!
You're being a child. They held onto the lead. What I mean is they didn't play a "protect" the lead game as in sitting back like you're implying. I know you already know this but i'll spell it out anyway so that I don't have to get another notification of you quoting me on particulars.
 

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So they appear to be going with 8D, okay then. I agree if they continue to play Mironov over Zadorov I'll be extremely Pissedov.

You referring to Lindholm's call up?

I'm praying it's so that they can scratch both Barberio and Mironov lol.

Z - EJ
Nemeth - Barrie
Bigras - Lindholm

I WANT, I WANT!

Bigras - EJ
Nemeth - Barrie
Z - Lindholm

That would work tooo
 

Freudian

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I'd rather Bigras play on the third pairing for a while, given how quick Bednar is to pull the plug on younger guys making mistakes. Let him build up some credits on his accounts by giving him an appropriate role for a while.
 

klozge

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While I agree with you that they got outplayed at various points in the game, I don't think it was all entirely on the Avs, a lot of it was on silly turnovers, bad puck managment. But also the game was so choppy because of the refs, it seemed like every time a team was building momentum the refs would inject themselves into the game. It didn't feel like there was much flow on either side throughout the majority of last night.
Except of two decisions I liked the tight way the refs were calling the game. It's about time to finally enforce the rules because NHL hockey was getting uglier and uglier in the last few years.
 

dahrougem2

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Lol watch tomorrow night the defensive pairings have both Zadorov and Bigras scratched, and Bednar rolls with

Barberio-EJ
Nemeth-Barrie
Lindholm-Mironov
 

S3rkie

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Except of two decisions I liked the tight way the refs were calling the game. It's about time to finally enforce the rules because NHL hockey was getting uglier and uglier in the last few years.
It's such a tough thing to think about because you want the games to have continuous flow, but I hate all the interference and hacking so I agree something had to be done. Maybe once the team finds a rhythm and adjust to the new rules the special teams wont disrupt the pace of the game so much. I just would much rather watch 5 on 5 hockey then 10+ powerplays a night.
 

klozge

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It's such a tough thing to think about because you want the games to have continuous flow, but I hate all the interference and hacking so I agree something had to be done. Maybe once the team finds a rhythm and adjust to the new rules the special teams wont disrupt the pace of the game so much. I just would much rather watch 5 on 5 hockey then 10+ powerplays a night.
I think the players will adjust after a few games if the refs continue to call the games that tightly.
 
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