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Habs-all theway!

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What does this defense is missing?

Bouwmeester
Volchenkov
Leopold
Bryan Allen
Pothier
B.Ference


You have a no1 in J-Bo, no2 in Volchenkov, AQB in Leopold and a physical D in Allen.
Is that a decent top 6 defense on a team or is there something missing? Another offensive d-man, two-way d-man?

suggestions?
 

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Habs-all theway! said:
What does this defense is missing?

Bouwmeester
Volchenkov
Leopold
Bryan Allen
Pothier
B.Ference


You have a no1 in J-Bo, no2 in Volchenkov, AQB in Leopold and a physical D in Allen.
Is that a decent top 6 defense on a team or is there something missing? Another offensive d-man, two-way d-man?

suggestions?

Maybe it's just me, but those offensive defencemen don't have huge shots. Bouwmeester and Leopold are you two best offensive guys, and neither are known for their shots. Who steps in, I dont' know, but there is a lack of a big shot from a supposed offensive blueliner there.
 

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Hossa said:
Maybe it's just me, but those offensive defencemen don't have huge shots. Bouwmeester and Leopold are you two best offensive guys, and neither are known for their shots. Who steps in, I dont' know, but there is a lack of a big shot from a supposed offensive blueliner there.

I agree that there is no big shooter there. How about adding Brad Stuart there? He would give you a big slapshot and a physical element.
 

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Hossa said:
Maybe it's just me, but those offensive defencemen don't have huge shots. Bouwmeester and Leopold are you two best offensive guys, and neither are known for their shots. Who steps in, I dont' know, but there is a lack of a big shot from a supposed offensive blueliner there.

Obviously you like young d-men, I would try to complement that def. corp with a guy like Anton Babchuk...he has a canon of a shot.
 

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Hello Habs All the Way,

If you look at your top 6, you won't hurt anybody. Allen has good intensity but I do not believe is the next Scott Stevens. I do believe that a talented grinder like Babchuk could give you a hand. He's tall, big and he's got some grit.

With Babchuk, your top 6 should be OK. However, do not make the mistake of putting all your hope into only 6 D-men. It is too risky. I would go get 2-3 other good prospects. They do not have to be future stars but decent d-Men like Boychuk, Lindstrom, Matt Jones, etc. Good luck!

Message for In Flames: that's the most silly post I've ever read! Go get a life now! BTW, Opeth is a way better Death Metal band than In Flames.
 

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You need some toughness and a bit more offense.

I'd take Pitkanen over JBo
Brad Stuart over Volchenkov
Allen is no in their league, but for a physical presence I'd keep him
Leopold is a good 3rd dman
Pothier and Ference aren't that stellar
I'd take a Regehr or Gautheir over Ference
Mara or Kubina or Fischer still qualify as young
Maybe Vishnevski or Vaananen.

pitkanen-stuart
leopold-regehr/gautheir
Mara/Vaananen
 

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here's my defense in my keeper fantasy league:

t.kaberle, stuart
k.jonsson, vaananen
vishnevski blank for now.

I'd love a regehr as my #3 and drop vaananen to 6th.
 

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Habs-all theway! said:
What does this defense is missing?

Bouwmeester
Volchenkov
Leopold
Bryan Allen
Pothier
B.Ference


You have a no1 in J-Bo, no2 in Volchenkov, AQB in Leopold and a physical D in Allen.
Is that a decent top 6 defense on a team or is there something missing? Another offensive d-man, two-way d-man?

suggestions?


You are missing Joni Pitkanen, he will probably be better then anyone on this list offensively.
 

Crosbyfan

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buddy do you have a life? Get outside. Nobody should be contemplating the "best future defense" from the entire NHL. Sheesh.

This is dumb, but I have to admit it made me laugh! :lol:
 

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Actually, I feel you are lacking a #1 defenseman. I'm not sure Bouwmeester will do it, heck, I'm not so sure Pitkanen is any better than Bouwmeester either.

I feel Dmitri Kallinen might be a guy I'd go for in their stead. He's a little further along developmental-wise, and I think he's going to be a real fine defenseman in this league.

I'd keep Jordan Leopold for sure, and Allen - well, I like Allen.

Kallinen
Leopold
Volchenkov
Allen

As my top 4 would look interesting. Not sure whom would be the #1 in the end (anything can happen), but all of Kallinen, Volchenkov, or Allen could turn into Adam Foote/Mattias Ohlund-types.

Jordan Leopold gives you a hell of a future power play quarterback. Kallinen has a big shot there too, though I'd prefer a guy like Paul Martin to Volchenkov, gives them one more guy who can play solid offensive hockey. Then again, I'm partial to a up-tempo, two-way blueline.

For the final two, I am not really fans of either of your last two guys. I'm not sure either will be every day NHL'ers to begin with.

I'd swap at least one for JM Liles, whom is just a solid two-way blueliner. Don't be fooled by his size, he is very good in his own zone too. Just small...

Anyhow, here's my ideal blueline full of guys I'd take for a fine top 6 defense without going too overboard:

Jordan Leopold, Bryan Allen, Dmitri Kallinen, John-Michael Liles, Paul Mara, and Brooks Orpik

I think everyone there has offensive instincts, if not always posting big numbers (Allen and Orpik I don't think will ever exceed 25 points a season, but they do actually have decent instincts as to weather or not to jump up, and are decent passers). Leopold, Liles, and Mara represent my offensive defensemen, and all three but Leopold are, I think, going to be very polished in their own ends.

I went with Mara over guys like Pitkanen and such mostly because he's more mature, and I feel he's closer to being what I'd need than Pitkanen is. I'm not going to just take guys because they might be something, I'd rather go for guys who are a bit closer to being sure bets.
 
Porn* said:
here's my defense in my keeper fantasy league:

t.kaberle, stuart
k.jonsson, vaananen
vishnevski blank for now.

I'd love a regehr as my #3 and drop vaananen to 6th.

If this is a league that emphasizes points I'd be leery of Regher. He's having a great season and will be a horse on Calgary's blueline for years to come, but offensive production isn't his forte. The only reason he's on Calgary's PP right now is lack of options.
 

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Seven_Nation_Army said:
No Suter or Hamhuis...nicely done boys

No Mark Eaton and no Jamie Allison, too! What the hell were these guys thinking??

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