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Gerard Gallant is my Spirit Animal
Thats with no Fil, Cleary, Sammy, Bert and Emmerton.
Now that sounds pretty good
Thats with no Fil, Cleary, Sammy, Bert and Emmerton.
If you ask me, the Wings want to bring Cleary back.
But my guess is that Cleary thinks he's worth a raise. And maybe some team that needs cup winning experience would pay him a raise
St James wrote a puff piece on him basically saying Cleary is worth more than the $3M the Wings paid him last year
http://www.freep.com/article/20130615/SPORTS05/306150059/daniel-cleary-red-wings-contract
Looking at Rob Scuderi... I can't for the life of me understand why people want him.
Key defensive D-man on two Stanley Cup Champions. I would take him to Sochi before Yandle for Team USA.
Cleary re-signs 3 year 10.5M deal, book it.
Um... Look at his peripherals... He's basically a traffic cone. Kyle Quincey, I kid you not, statistically,is a better Dman.
I was hoping for more like 8M, but yes, I fear you are right.
we shouldn't want Slava Voynov here either....
He tried to predict what summed up to be a losing record for the Wings this year. The only backing people have that Holland has a veteran fetish and loves to hoard guys like Cleary are essentially using only the last several years where the Salary cap only allowed him to pick up vets and maintain the team that won the cup, rather than let him upgrade. I doubt Cleary is back. Even if he is, (and it won't be the end of the world) he aint' making $3.5 milion AAV.
Cleary re-signs 3 year 10.5M deal, book it.
That may well all be true; I wasn't here for that. I don't however get the impression that Holland is lying when he says that he wants Cleary back. Additionally I do think his playoff might sucker someone into ponying up 3 million a year for 3; though not necessarily Holland.
And so begins my jump upon the Leafs bandwagon
His on ice Corsi is positive, and the only reason his relative corsi is in the negative is because even though the Kings control the puck more often when he's off the ice than on. But on ice corsi of +8 is nothing to sneeze at. Not to mention, 2.76 GAA/60 isn't bad either. He did have a negative quality of teammates. I don't know what you're talking about. I'd love to have Voynov on the team.
Of course you want Voynov that was the whole point. You cannot pick and choose which advance statistics you want to throw. Well I mean I guess you can, well within your rights of forming an opinion.
Stop. Just stop. If you don't understand advanced statistics, don't even comment on them. This is just... Wow. Just don't comment on Corsi until you understand it.
St James is a Wings slappy whose "analysis" of the Wings is about as deep as a puddle on a hot summer's day. I don't think it is possible for her to write anything approaching criticism regarding the Wings.
If you don't understand the eye test fine..... I don't like corsi there is a difference between that and not understanding it. It has its time and place, but using it as a means to put down a guy that has had an incredibly successful career just doesn't really work for me. There are huge differences in understanding something and buying into it. I am by no means an expert on the subject but I am guessing neither are you. I have the same information available on how the data is collected, I know how it is collected.
Just like advanced statistics have their problems in baseball, they have problems in hockey. They are but a tool to make an assessment and using this and this alone to hunt a player like Scuderi doesn't scan with me sorry.
Remember when Abdelkader scored 5 goals (including a hat trick) in the span of like two weeks or whatever?
St. James and Khan -- apologists that they are -- both wrote "i told you so" articles, saying that Babcock was great and Pavel loved Abdelkader, etc. blah blah blah.
But the truly pathetic thing about these writers was that wrote this article about how Abdelkader and Babcock proved the doubters wrong -- when these spineless pukes never had the guts to write an article about the doubts in the first place
If you don't understand the eye test fine..... I don't like corsi there is a difference between that and not understanding it. It has its time and place, but using it as a means to put down a guy that has had an incredibly successful career just doesn't really work for me. There are huge differences in understanding something and buying into it. I am by no means an expert on the subject but I am guessing neither are you. I have the same information available on how the data is collected, I know how it is collected.
Just like advanced statistics have their problems in baseball, they have problems in hockey. They are but a tool to make an assessment and using this and this alone to hunt a player like Scuderi doesn't scan with me sorry.
Don't waste your time trying to explain it man really. He is a stat freak (jman) that cannot understand the contributions scuderi brings. There also is next to no chance he makes it to fa but if he did I would really want the wings to push for him.
I would love to have him due to my thinking that we are 1 def-d short in our lineup. And it would free up smith to actually having confidence in his partner. Which was pretty obvious he didn't have this year.
It would also mean that we could have a pure def-d on each pk line. And scud is a great veteran pickup to help teach smith/dekeyser/kindl the in's and outs of positioning. But with who is trying to argue it you might as well be talking to a wall.