Free Agency and Trades Thread: Post deadline wasteland

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  1. nuck

    nuck In the mist

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    I think if there is any chance LA doesn't keep Doughty he is as likely to sign FA with the Leafs as any other club. Why trade assets for a freebie? Of course making room for him UFA will be painful, but thats the best possible return as well. Not sure how much positive value Zaitsev has right now. He might need to play himself back to his contract.
     
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    It's a risk if he becomes available, we don't do well and then he doesn't sign here etc. It's a big price to pay though for sure. To get the 8 year deal and maybe knock down the AVV helps us long term too.
     
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    I’d rather risk it then trade Nylander + 1st + for him.

    Some bigger names will be hitting free agency over the next couple years, Leafs can just make a hard push for whomever does and keep their other assets
     
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    SeaOfBlue No Leaf Left Behind

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    He's going to want to test FA no matter what.
     
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    If the discussion was he'd want to test UFA no matter what then we don't pull the trigger on the trade. We try to sign him that summer and hope it goes our way. At that point you see what other options exist on the trade front if you can sign him.
     
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    ChiTownLeafer From Toronto to Chicago

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    Hyman - Matthews - Nylander
    Marleau - Tavares - Kovulchuk
    Brown - Kadri - Marner
    Johnson - Goat/Altonen - Kapanen

    Ridiculous depth
     
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    JVR, Bozak, Komarov gone
    Sign Tavares

    Hyman - Matthews - Nylander
    Marleau - Tavares - Marner
    Kapanen - Kadri - Brown
    Johnson - Aaltonen - Grundstrom

    Rielly - Hainsey
    Gardiner - Zaitsev
    Dermott - Liljegren
    -Carrick/Borgman
     
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    Kovalchuk Matthews Hyman
    Marleau Kadri Marner
    Johnsson Nylander Kapanen
    Grundstrom Aaltonen Martin/Engevell/Korshkov

    Dermott Carlson
    Reilly Tanev
    Rosen/Borgman Zaitsev
     
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    Tor/Min
    Gardiner+Brown+Bracco/Brodin+Greenway


    Close? Far apart? Who needs to add?

    Reilly Brodin
    Dermott Zaitzev
    Hainsey Carrick
    Borgman Holl

    Hymen Matthews Nylander
    Marleau Kadri Marner
    Greenway Bozak Kapanen
    Grundstrom UFA/Aaltonen Johnsson
    Martin
     
  10. nuck

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    Even the chance he would test UFA makes it a non starter for me

    Brodin is LD. If they are going to move Gards it should at least be for a right shot D
     
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    Know what. I always thought he was rd
     
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    He's a left shot, but I believe he plays his off-side quite a bit.
     
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    This year he's been all LD.

    Suter-Spurgeon
    Brodin-Dumba has been the top 4.
     
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    kovalchuk has all but signed with the rangers,
     
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    That and has he ever played RW before?
     
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    If Brown didn't go for a defenseman, how would you feel about a deal like Brown for N.Ritchie? We have the trading history with Anaheim.
     
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    Any interest in Jeff Carter? He's 33 with 4 years left at a decent cap hit. Not sure if he'd be available.
     
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    Eh, I’m just not much of a fan of trading for more wingers. Leafs have plenty in house pushing for jobs as it is

    Edit: typo
     
  19. ToneDog

    ToneDog Voice of Reason

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    He is proposing we trade a winger for a bigger, grittier winger. Makes sense if Ritchie is the guy and Brown's ceiling is 20 goals.
     
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    I don't see Ritchie being much more than a 4th line guy here. Hasn't put it together in Anaheim and they're fairly desperate for a top-6 winger.
     
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    He said he is watching the playoffs to make his decision
     
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    Yes please.
     
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    Only if Brown didn't go in a deal for Brown, and you know change of scenery type deals, Ritchie might just need to go somewhere else? Plus Ritchie brings things we don't have to the table and can play.
     
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    Why do you say this? I'd think he'd want to come back to compete for a cup and that's not gonna happen in NY. I doubt Sather would tell the fans they are gonna rebuild and then slap them in the face by signing Kovalchuk.
     
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    I'm pretty sure you could ice 6 Norris calibre D-men on the Leafs and they would still have the same issues......getting hung out to dry on odd-man rushes, forwards not winning board battles, and consequently getting worn down by zone time.

    If you sign JT, he understands positioning on both sides of the puck, and is tough to knock off the puck. Simply put, if you have the puck more, the D doesn't get as tired being cycled to death.

    It's amusing that some don't see what the real issue is....and that ISN'T all on the D. Whenever you see an odd man rush against, that isn't the D making the mistake. And when the Leafs get hemmed into their own zone, that isn't all on the D. It's far more often than not that a forward is not winning a puck battle, or not being in a position to give the D-man an outlet, or the forward being out of position entirely.

    JT helps this more than a D-man would. But there is still more work to do on the forwards.
     
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