Discussion in 'National Hockey League Talk' started by HarrisonFord, Dec 6, 2017.
I prob have him in the 10 to 15 range
October counts though
Sure, team helps... but its not like he's played for the Pittsburghs or the Chicagos of the world either...
Sucks to be 6th in the league.
He was the reason we lost a few games early in the year.
Fans call out player when he's playing bad, praise him when he's playing good. More on this at 11.
Good grouping, I'd have mike smith in the top tier or at the top of the second tier. He's really good now that he plays in Canada
You mean scapegoat him then overrate him? Nah...
This is such a bad thread, the entire argument is so off.
If your argument is his November record then someone can easily just post his October record to argue why he's one of the worst.
Bottom line, don't use a small sample size to base your argument, there are much better ways to go about it.
Toronto has elite D? I could live with the rest, but the D is nowhere near elite.
I really don't like removing October for this argument, either. But since he's been a Leaf, Andersen has been overall fantastic. Plus he passes the eye test with flying colours. Top 10 might still be arguable. But I would make the case that he is in that top 10.
I think at this point i'd take Andersen tbh. Rask nowdays is pretty much the definition of average NHL starter. Back to back 91.5% seasons before this year and every year he seems to have couple stretches where he's flat out terrible and it takes some time for him to bounce back.
I like how Andersen has developed especially mentally the last couple years and i think he's better.
There was also a couple names that are debatable for sure. I think there's a legit case for Freddy to squeeze in to the top 10, even if it's "just" #10.
But with goalies it's a matter of preference i guess.
For Sure, he's probably up there and there are probably arguments to be made. OP did a horrible job at it though and is just setting himself and other leafs fans up for hate.
He is pretty good. I've long said that Toronto's going to need another goalie if they want to become a true Stanley Cup contender. Watching Andersen's game last night I think he could be good enough to get Toronto to the Cup final.
He's able to steal games and is better than anything we've had in a long time. Top 10? Not sure. But I'm happy with what we have.
He is certainly getting there.
If he can keep up his .923 + save percentage for the next few years he will easily be a top ten goalie.
I forgot-no other fanbase does this at all. No other player goes through ups and downs.
Maybe he should put up a full season's stats at .920+ before you crown him a legit top-10 goalie
Why other Leaf fans? What'd they have to do with his post?
So he admits, that Leaf hate exists? He also admits that he thinks we all have a hive mind.
If I had to put a number on him I would say he somewhere in the 10-15 range making him league average to above average. He's a really solid goalie and that's all that matters
So what you're saying is, hypothetically, going forward, he puts up near league best numbers for several years in a row (none of which have actually happened yet), he should be considered one of the leagues best?
Can't this be said about every player in the league? In every sport?
If Zdeno Chara pitches with a sub 1.50 ERA for the next 10 years, he should be considered a top 10 pitcher. So lets talk about it now!
Looking at career numbers, it looks like it took Carey Price about 300 games before he really established himself as an elite goalie in the league. To me it looks like it was 2013-2014 where Price's numbers became consistently elite. Andersen has 216 games under his belt and his career compares very favorably to Price's early career.
Okay so you're telling me that people aren't calling out Leafs fans in this thread as a whole? This always happens whenever leafs fans make bold statements, people hate on the fanbase as a whole. In my post i didn't say anything about my personal opinion of leafs fans, but i've been on this forum enough to acknowlegde that threads like this make some people hate on leafs fans, wouldn't you agree?
So defensive, smh.