Franchise mergers

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  1. Bicycle Repairman

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    Gary Bettman has apparently ruled out league contraction, which could in fact be a mere matter of semantics. Remember the North Stars/Barons merger? There is precedent for one team to absorb the organizational assets of another.

    Say the Rangers or Leafs absorb the one-time financial hit of acquiring, say, the Edmonton Oilers (cheapest team in the league, which happens to come with a fully-stocked farm system).

    The North Stars were turned into instant contenders. With the money that could be made nowadays, could history repeat itself?
     
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    I doubt it.

    The Flyers or Devils wouldn't be too happy about the Rangers all of a sudden buying the Oilers and their talent base.

    It could create a free-for-all with the Flyers then looking to pick up the Penguins or the Caps .. and the Red Wings jumping in as well.

    A nice theory, but the could never happen today.
     
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    Some places this would work.

    Like in Florida - have the two teams there merge. They'd be unstoppable.

    Also - in California. Have Anaheim and LA merge.
     
  4. Whatever it takes to get down to 20-24 teams.

    Did one Gund own the Barons and the other the North Stars, or did they just end up buying the other and consolidating?
     
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    I'm saving up to buy the Oilers and move them to Saskatchewan, so it won't happen. :p:
     
  6. Get rid of San Jose, and Anahiem and put them both in LA. Get rid of Carolina all together, and Edmonton too. Thats a total of 4 teams gone, and back to 26.
     
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    Just out of curiosity, what are the prospects of relocating teams back to Winnipeg and Quebec? I suppose Portland, Houston, and Kansas City would probably come first though.

    The way I figure, four teams should be cut immediately: Florida, Carolina, Pittsburgh, and Washington, with a select few others being relocated.
     
  8. Winnipeg is good, maybe bring the Carolina franchise there. We don't need another french team 1 is enough.
     
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  10. NYIsles1*

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    Why not cut the Rangers, who lose revenue and have for years, play in front of thousands of empty seats (the Knicks last year had 12-13,000 season tickets so the Ranger are absoutely lower than that despite padded numbers because they are Msg's signature tennant) and are almost completely invisible in the NY sports market yet drove up prices because James Dolan decided to spend more of Cablevisions money because he had no faith in prospects and is a big part of creating this absurd player market and is a big reason why there is a work stoppage?

    If the Blues (who do fill every seat and have a better facility in Saavis center) lose 30-40 million a year there is little doubt the Rangers lose that much, regardless of how out of touch TSN is with hockey in the metro area.

    The Arena Football Dragons had equal ratings in New York to the Rangers on ABC and have going back as far as 1999 when they got a .9 rating vs Detroit. Msg continues to lose sports programming and has to split any television revenue 60/40 with Rupert Murdoch. The Garden has laid off employees and cut it's programming and just lost Mets baseball for good, which means millions in advertising is gone after 2005. Not a good future outlook. They even owe the Islanders 13 million for broadcast rights, the entire league got sixty million from Espn, another bad deal.

    Hockey is one of those sports today where it would do better outside of a major city like New York, like MLS. The past attention for hockey here is over and nothing a 31 million dollar Ranger team could do to take any attention away from the Yankees, Mets, Giants, Jets, Knicks or Nets. Leetch got moved and Joe Torre got the back page.

    They could not get any attention with all-stars, bad place to put a 80-94 million dollar team. That's only going to get worse in the future.

    Those markets you mentioned will get good ratings and attendance will improve as soon as they are allowed to be competitive for free agents on the same level as everyone else. What the last few years have proven is the Rangers even with name stars are virtually invisible.

    Those markets with affordable prices and lower salaries will do what Msg has proven they cannot do any longer.
     
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    Maybe the Habs and Leafs should merge. Man, can you imagine the identity crisis for the fans?
     
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    Not Edmonton man, Ted Saskins is willing to invest in the Oil with his own money!
     
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