Forsberg/Sakic vs Fedorov/Yzerman

[Ben White]

Which 1, 2 punch would you sign?

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[Mighty Makar]

Call me a homer if you want, but I'd go with Forsberg and Sakic. Either duo is legendary.

 

[Postanin CB Ting]

I'd take Forsberg alone. Which works good cause Sakic doesn't know how to use a pen

 

[blundluntman]

Sakic and Forsberg. All 4 of these players are basically a wash at their peak but Sakic and Forsberg were much more consistent .

 

[sparxx87]

3 cups > 2 cups

Detroit.

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

3 cups > 2 cups

Detroit.

this is true, but it is super awkward to see only 2 names on the cup in 97,98 and 02 compared to full teams everywhere else.

 

[sparxx87]

this is true, but it is super awkward to see only 2 names on the cup in 97,98 and 02 compared to full teams everywhere else.

They obviously weren't the only ones but they were a huge part of it.

What does the head-to-head look like?

 

[67 others]

What a new and intriguing thread idea

Sakic/Forsberg in their prime is my choice.

 

[Lexus]

Forsberg/Sakic and it's not really that close IMO.

 

[TheMule93]

Detroit fan voting avs duo

 

[PatrikBerglund]

Forsberg tilts it for me, he was just so incredibly dominant and impossibly hard to play against.

 

[bobholly39]

Federov is the clear weak link here. Absolutely fantastic player - but he wasn't dominant/consistent for as long as some of the others. He has less career/prime value than the other 3.

I'd also put Sakic ahead of Yzerman.

 

[Cursed Lemon]

All I know is Fedorov's disadvantages to the other three disappear when you hit the postseason.

Weigh that what it's worth.

 

[nowhereman]

All three are tremendous two-way hockey players but Forsberg adds an element to his game that the other three simply don't. I'd also say that, overall, he was the best player when he was playing his best hockey (excluding Fedorov's one peak season, since I don't feel that's a true barometer of Fedorov as a player).

And with that, I'd take Forsberg and Sakic.

 

[MessierII]

Tie!

 

[Sempiternal]

Sakic & Forsberg pretty easily.

 

[Felidae]

Here are some stats, bolded names are players they finished ahead of in point or hart finishes.


Peter Forsberg

Awards
Hart
Art Ross


Hart finishes: 7, 11, 13, 17

Hart competition
2002-03: Naslund, Brodeur, Thornton, Bertuzzi, MacInnis

Selke finishes: 2, 4, 6, 8, 11, 34


Points
1995-96 NHL 116 (5th) Lemieux, Jagr, Sakic, Francis, Lindros
1997-98 NHL 91 (2nd) Jagr, Bure, Gretzky, Palffy, Leclair
1998-99 NHL 97 (4th) Jagr, Selanne, Kariya, Sakic, Yashin
2000-01 NHL 89 (9th)
2002-03 NHL 106 (1st) Naslund, Thornton, Hejduk, Bertuzzi, Demitra

PPG
1995-96 NHL 1.41 (6th)
1996-97 NHL 1.32 (6th)
1997-98 NHL 1.26 (2nd)
1998-99 NHL 1.24 (5th)
2000-01 NHL 1.22 (4th)
2002-03 NHL 1.41 (1st)
2003-04 NHL 1.41 (1st)
2005-06 NHL 1.25 (9th)



Joe Sakic

Awards
Pearson
Smythe
Hart

Hart finishes: 6, 7, 7, 7, 8, 14, 14, 15

Hart competition
1995-96: Lemieux, Messier, Lindros, Jagr, Fedorov
2000-01: Lemieux, Jagr, Cechmanek, Brodeur, Elias

Selke: 2, 9, 15, 15, 24


Points
1989-90 NHL 102 (10th)
1990-91 NHL 109 (6th) Gretzky, Hull, Oates, Recchi, Cullen
1994-95 NHL 62 (4th) Jagr, Lindros, ZHamnov, Francis, Fleury
1995-96 NHL 120 (3rd) Lemieux, Jagr, Francis, Forsberg, Lindros
1998-99 NHL 96 (5th)
1999-00 NHL 81 (8th)
2000-01 NHL 118 (2nd) Jagr, Elias, Straka, Kovalev, Allison
2001-02 NHL 79 (5th) Iginla, Naslund, Bertuzzi, Sundin, Jagr
2003-04 NHL 87 (2nd) St Louis, Kovalchuk, Naslund, Hossa, Elias
2006-07 NHL 100 (6th) Crosby, Thornton, Lecavelier, Heatley, St Louis

PPG
1990-91 NHL 1.36 (6th)
1991-92 NHL 1.36 (6th)
1994-95 NHL 1.32 (5th)
1995-96 NHL 1.46 (5th)
1998-99 NHL 1.32 (3rd)
1999-00 NHL 1.35 (2nd)
2000-01 NHL 1.44 (3rd)
2003-04 NHL 1.07 (7th)
2006-07 NHL 1.22 (8th)




Sergei Fedorov
Hart
Pearson
2 Selke

Hart finishes: 5, 9, 19

Hart Competition
1993-94: Hasek, Vanbiesbrouck, Gilmour, Roy, Bourque

1995-96: Lemieux, Messier, Lindros, Jagr, Sakic

Selke finishes: 2, 4, 4, 8, 8, 9, 12, 19, 21, 32, 64


Points
1993-94 NHL 120 (2nd) Gretzky, Oates, Gilmour, Roenick, Recchi
1995-96 NHL 107 (9th)

PPG
1993-94 NHL 1.46 (4th)
1994-95 NHL 1.19 (9th)
1995-96 NHL 1.37 (7th)



Steve Yzerman

Awards
Pearson
Smythe
Selke

Hart finishes: 3, 4, 7, 7, 7, 8, 8, 12, 19, 21

Hart competition
1987-88: Lemieux, Fuhr, Gretzky, Savard, Barasson
1988-89L Gretzky, Lemieux, Roy, Mullen, CHelios


Selke finishes: 3, 4, 5, 9, 11, 16, 18, 45


Points
1988-89 NHL 155 (3rd) Gretzky, Lemieux, Nicholls, Brown, Coffey
1989-90 NHL 127 (3rd) Gretzky, Messier, Lemieux, Hull, Nicholls
1990-91 NHL 108 (7th)
1991-92 NHL 103 (7th)
1992-93 NHL 137 (4th) Lemieux, Lafontaine, Oates, Selanne, Turgeon
1999-00 NHL 79 (10th)

PPG
1987-88 NHL 1.59 (4th)
1988-89 NHL 1.94 (3rd)
1989-90 NHL 1.61 (4th)
1990-91 NHL 1.35 (7th)
1991-92 NHL 1.30 (9th)
1992-93 NHL 1.63 (5th)
1993-94 NHL 1.41 (6th)

 

[tony d]

Went with the Detroit duo.