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For the Philadelphia Flyers, K’Andre Miller is a worthy risk

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  1. Ghosts Beer

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    Hard to know. I have him in that tier that hovers between early 2nd round and late 1st. He seems to be an intelligent player with above average skill. And he's young for the draft class, so already getting significant SHL time is a positive sign.

    But his stats are good, not great, for a rather small defenseman, so I'm conflicted on his NHL ceiling. I think he'll be an NHLer, though.
     
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    Fair enough. Lundkvist nearly put up the same amount of points as Brannstrom did during his draft year in the SHL. Don’t know if his offense will ever be great. However, he can transition the puck as well as some of the best defenseman in this draft. There’s a lot of value in that.
     
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    True re: draft-year SHL numbers, and I'm a big Brannstrom fan, but their Swedish junior stats (and international experience/stats) aren't even close. Brannstrom blows Lundkvist away. Not to mention my so-called "eye test" sees Brannstrom as having higher end talent and upside.
     
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    Haha! So called eye-test! Brannstrom seems like he has more talent. The more I read about and watch of Lundkvist, the more I like his game. If you can get the puck out and have solid positioning, an active stick, play recognition, and have good gap control...I want that defenseman on my team. Lundkvist has shown quite a bit of that thus far. He’s young too so he “should” get even better.
     
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    I studied Lundkvist very closely all u18s, since I knew Hockey Prospect was hyped on him and my viewings were *ahem* nil. This is my write-up of Nils.

    I had Brannstrom at 13 or 14 last year, so I was a super fan. I think his dynamic qualities and pure offensive abilities always popped more, while being similarly sized and a better skater and a respectable, hard nosed defender too. I think he's closer to Boqvist in pure talent than Lundkvist. I have Lundkvist in the low-20s.

    In my other post I mentioned trading down from #19 for lesser hyped, similarly ranked d-men (my ranks anyway) to Miller, and Lundkvist was one of the names. Along with Sandin; I'm partial to Tychonick; Bernard-Docker could be a riser and grouped there too, but having never seen him I can't give my personal thoughts. I'm also absurdly high on Danila Zhuravlyov and have watched him quite a bit in the MHL; he's one of my big steals of the draft and a 1st round talent to me (he who won't go there; I'd happily take him at #50 though and think I got a 1st rounder). Spencer Stastney is a super low hyped mid-rounder who I don't have far behind either, though he's not really in discussion here. But my point being that I like the value of a defenseman in a trade-down from #19.

    I meant to say draft thread, but there's no law against checking out different threads lol.
     
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    Very solid insight into Lundkvist’s game. Well done!
     
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    Stop patting yourself on the back, Magua. Magoppelganger. Hmm. Doppelguager? No. Magoppelganger it is.
     
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    he looks like a sting bean
     
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    I wish you hadn't reminded me that that whole thing was real. I had almost convinced myself, finally, that his existence was a fever dream I had.
     
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    K'Andre Miller? He's 6'3'' 198 lbs. Pretty stock actually compared to a lot of defenseman at the same age.
     
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    just going by the pic in that link..he looks tall and lanky..not bad..definite filling out to do..just looks string beany
     
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    Miller engulfs opposing skaters down low. Physicality is a big plus. He's definitely quite strong already.
     
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    Watch him play. He plays a very hard game. The last thing that he is is a string bean
     
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    I admit, He falls into that group of guys who I have not bothered looking at. He did not seem to be worthy to be on the radar at #19 and gone before #50. So to save on time, I skipped him.

    That same flawed strategy led me to know little about Frost when he traded Schenn for the pics and picked him.

    Maybe I need to adjust this strategy....
     
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    As I said before. If Farabee is there at 14 he is ours and at 19 I like either Noel or Miller.
     
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    I want no parts of noel personally
     
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    Why?
     
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    From what ive seen, i haven't liked any part of his game, his shot isnt that good, his skating looks rough, hes not very physical for someone of his size, his defense looks below average, and he seems lost when he doesnt have the puck, but then again i am no scout, i just personally havent seen anything that good about his game, nothing really stands out except for the fact that hes 6'5
     
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    I get too much of a Chris Stewart vibe from Noel. Maybe even a bit of Hugh Jessiman. Big, strong athlete. You drool at the idea of “if he puts it all together,” like what caused Morin to get overdrafted.

    But those guys rarely do. I like hockey players who have a feel for the game, read the ice well, & compete with high, consistent effort. Not just raw athletes.

    I probably wouldn’t blame a team too much for taking a shot at Noel in the very late 1st/early 2nd (depending on who is out there), but he wouldn’t be my choice at 14 or 19.
     
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    Thats exactly what i said the last time i watched him play! Lol i said he reminded me so much of hugh jessiman
     
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    I’d prefer Jett Woo... so that way during the games, when the fans go “woooo” it’ll be for him.
     
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    That alone is why i dont want him, i think id much rather have rectal cancer than hear those annoying woos
     
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    New flyers song will be Ric Flair Drip... whenever they say woo in the song, the fans can yell it too.
     
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