Flyers pull goalie approximately 1 minute after being eliminated, gift Caps playoff spot

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Torts isn't standing there with five monitors open in front of him. As far as he knew, his team had a chance and had to win in regulation to preserve it. He didn't know Detroit had scored with 3-4 seconds to go, making it a moot point. The overlap was something like 60-90 seconds.

Shortly after the Caps scored, his assistant leans over and whispers into his ear concerning the Red Wings goal, and Torts starts shaking his head.

He's making a decision in real time from a bench during a game. He's not in the War Room in Toronto or at home streaming multiple games. For all intents and purposes, the Detroit goal that eliminated him was tallied as he was trying to find a way to get that go-ahead goal and scrape and claw to extend their season.
 
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Rsswmu

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So the last he heard was Detroit was losing in regulation with like 4 seconds remaining. At that point he decided to go for broke and pulled his goalie. It’s not some crazy conspiracy theory that a team is focusing on the game at hand and not what’s happening in another arena. It didn’t work out but there was no guarantee that Washington doesn’t win anyways.
Also note even if he did somehow know the score at that moment it’s still possible the goal by Detroit is taken away on review.
I didn’t say it was a conspiracy at all. I also said he didn’t know. However the Red Wing game had already went to OT. There was no chance of review, if he knew he wouldn’t have pulled the goalie.
 

pezpunk

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Way to close to say all that, Flyers had to win in regulation. If anything, the lack of Detroit getting any calls is more worrisome. With TV rating, TV money, and other factors in all of sports today, Seems to be to many fingers are on scales, and want certain outcomes within sports today. Does NHL want a last playoff run by either of their two superstars left alive? Ovi or Crosby?

lol at the idea “the league” is helping the caps. want to take a guess how many power plays the caps received in the last two games, combined?

Zero.

None.
 

drw13

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I think people are missing the point. It’s not about thinking the Flyers did that on purpose, it’s about how frustrating it is that the perfect storm allowed them to be eliminated by an empty net goal in a tie game, a situation that is rare to begin with. If that game is played 30 minutes later then that play never happens. Hell even if stoppages had it an extra 5 minutes behind then the Flyers probably know by then that they’re out and don’t pull the goalie. If Washington was playing any other team in the league then that situation would not have happened either. Even if Philly doesn’t know they were eliminated at that point, the fact still stands that they were and even though they didn’t know it still was not going to help them.

Obviously you could pick apart the whole season and find other instances where Detroit should have gotten another point, and even if Philly doesn’t pull the goalie that doesn’t mean they were going to end up winning.

But the fact is the deciding play that eliminated Detroit this season was an empty net goal in a tied game on a team that was already eliminated. That most certainly is going to hurt a lot extra
 

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The Red Wings, Caps, Flyers, and Pens had 82 games to qualify for the playoffs. Nothing that happened in the last few minutes of game 82 “gifted” or stole a playoff spot.

Of course it did, if the WSH-PHI game was played 1 hour later the Flyers dont pull the goaltender and it goes to OT. So it was certainly gifted. Not the Flyers or WSH fault, just the stupid NHL rules. But it was a free gifted win, thats not even debatable!
 

Dessloch

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I think people are missing the point. It’s not about thinking the Flyers did that on purpose, it’s about how frustrating it is that the perfect storm allowed them to be eliminated by an empty net goal in a tie game, a situation that is rare to begin with. If that game is played 30 minutes later then that play never happens. Hell even if stoppages had it an extra 5 minutes behind then the Flyers probably know by then that they’re out and don’t pull the goalie. If Washington was playing any other team in the league then that situation would not have happened either. Even if Philly doesn’t know they were eliminated at that point, the fact still stands that they were and even though they didn’t know it still was not going to help them.

Obviously you could pick apart the whole season and find other instances where Detroit should have gotten another point, and even if Philly doesn’t pull the goalie that doesn’t mean they were going to end up winning.

But the fact is the deciding play that eliminated Detroit this season was an empty net goal in a tied game on a team that was already eliminated. That most certainly is going to hurt a lot extra
BINGO, we have a winner! This situation should be avoided in the rules, so it can never happen again!
 

drw13

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BINGO, we have a winner! This situation should be avoided in the rules, so it can never happen again!
Never said it should be avoided, but any reasonable person could see that is an extra tough way to end your season. It gonna hurt a lot more than if Washington just won 4-1 or something
 

Dessloch

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Never said it should be avoided, but any reasonable person could see that is an extra tough way to end your season. It gonna hurt a lot more than if Washington just won 4-1 or something

Of course it hurts extra but all the posters in the thread thinking this is the best thing to ever happen would not give a darn about sporting fairness or teams or fans feelings, so you are talking to deaf ears.
 

drw13

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Of course it hurts extra but all the posters in the thread thinking this is the best thing to ever happen would not give a darn about sporting fairness or teams or fans feelings, so you are talking to deaf ears.
LOL, well that we can agree on
 

OKR

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Coaches and players absolutely do get updated about the other games in these type of situations, but the difference in time between Red Wings tying the game and Flyers pulling the goalie is not enough to take any action one way or another.
 
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*look Detroit sent it to overtime
 

StreetHawk

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There's 81 other games in the season Detroit could've gotten a point, but choose to rely on the Flyers on game 82. That's their own undoing. gg go next Wings
Detroit won just 27 games in regulation. 1/3 of their games. They needed a caps loss to not lose out on tie breakers.
Philly doing what they needed to do to try to make the PO. Win in regulation. And get help.
 

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