Confirmed with Link: Flames re-sign Michael Stone [3 yrs, 3.5m]

[Lunatik]

AZ will give you that 2nd and 5th back, along with local boy and recent 1st rounder Nick Merkley for Rasmus Andersson. Whaddya say?

Hard pass.

 

[rt]

How about a 2018 1st instead of that second .


No..... well no deal then.

Top 10 pick? And a recent 1st? Of course that's fair.

 

[Lunatik]

Top 10 pick? And a recent 1st? Of course that's fair.

Some of us just don't think very highly of a 5'10, 30th overall pick.

 

[Flames Fanatic]

I think a 2nd, 5th and Merkley for Anderssen is good value, just not sure if I pull the trigger as I really like Anderssen.

 

[Mr Snrub]

What the f*** happened? Guy should be making league minimum with the way he's been playing.

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

What the **** happened? Guy should be making league minimum with the way he's been playing.

Hero charts > NHL GMs

Not that I particularily dislike Stone. He's a solid #6D as I have always maintained. Why anyone would pay a #6D 3.5M is beyond me.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Stone hasn’t been excellent, but he’s a solid #5 IMO. I actually don’t think he’s been far off from Hamonic, he’s had his share of struggles in his own end, but he’s also been steady and his size and toughness shows, he’s valuable to the Flames. He can play in the top 4, he has chemistry with Brodie and he has a canon. I’m happy we have him.

 

[Mr Snrub]

Stone hasn’t been excellent, but he’s a solid #5 IMO. I actually don’t think he’s been far off from Hamonic, he’s had his share of struggles in his own end, but he’s also been steady and his size and toughness shows, he’s valuable to the Flames. He can play in the top 4, he has chemistry with Brodie and he has a canon. I’m happy we have him.

I don't really think Hamonic's been much better than Brouwer and I'm not sure why one player is getting a huge pass and the other one's been the whipping boy for two seasons.

 

[Mobiandi]

He should be on the PP

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

I don't really think Hamonic's been much better than Brouwer and I'm not sure why one player is getting a huge pass and the other one's been the whipping boy for two seasons.

Hamonic is moveable, just overrated/costly. Same as Stone and Frolik.

Brouwer has actual negative value.

 

[Mr Snrub]

Hamonic is moveable, just overrated/costly. Same as Stone and Frolik.

Brouwer has actual negative value.

Frolik is overpaid this year, but throughout the rest of his contract here he's been worth every penny. I don't know a team in the league that would take any of Brouwer, Hamonic or Stone at this point. Incredible that we managed to go from one bad contract up to three in just the span of a single offseason.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

I think all of Hamonic and Stone are moveable. Maybe not solely for picks, but I think both have value.

 

[Mobiandi]

I think we're gonna move Stone and graduate Andersson next season to give us some flexibility with the cap.

 

[Mr Snrub]

I think we're gonna move Stone and graduate Andersson next season to give us some flexibility with the cap.

Out of curiosity, what do you think we'd get for Stone?

 

[Mobiandi]

Out of curiosity, what do you think we'd get for Stone?

If a team is really desperate for defensemen, then I could see us getting as high as a second, like the Ron Hainsey deal. But probably a third and meh prospect

 

[Calculon]

Treliving decision to go all in on defence was an odd one in a league where no name defences can win championships. The best prospects are largely defenceman while at the same time there's a significant amount of cap space allocated to the defence as well. Meanwhile the second and third lines need an offensive upgrade in the worst way. Hopefully he capitalizes on that by moving one of Hamilton, Stone or Hamonic at the draft to free up cap space, a spot for Andersson and show Fox there's room for him in the organization. Either get a premier forward back or a really high draft pick so they can draft that high end offensive piece.

Stone is definitely movable. Two years at 3.5M for a competent bottom 3 defenceman isn't terrible; and I'm sure there's an organization out there capable of recognizing the value of his shot on the powerplay. There's only one Dave Cameron after all, thankfully. Won't get back much more than a mid round pick and maybe some cap or a mediocre prospect back though.

Really doubt Treliving moves Hamonic so quickly after acquiring him. Bad trade but he's getting better.

Hamilton might be the best choice to move. He has the most value and his offensive skills could in theory be replaced by Andersson or Fox. And none of prospects, nor Stone nor Hamonic are going to return that premier offensive piece. And there isn't same kind of depth on the left side at the moment to move Brodie.

 

[Dack]

We should trade Gio and Hamilton and tank for Jack Hughes.

 

[Volica]

@Calculon
I don’t think you can say you can win championships with scrub D’s, not unless you have 2 of the top 5 players in the world playing centre for you.

Everyone else has had nothing but dominant top 4’s.

 

[Anglesmith]

Stone's been good. I'm of the opinion that he wasn't signed to be a bottom pairing defenceman, but moreso as insurance as a top-4 option if one of the top-4 went down, which has happened pretty much each season these past few years. We would've been fine with Kulak and Andersson on the bottom pairing most likely, but Kulak or Andersson in the top 4? I'm not confident at all in that, especially because that brings Bartkowski back in on the third pairing.

Regardless, Stone's been fine. Hamonic has not looked as good as I'd hoped, but given it's coincided with Brodie and Hamilton also looking considerably worse than they have in the past, I'm not sure if that's actually a Hamonic problem or a Flames problem as to why the defencemen are struggling. One thing is for sure, though, this year is proving that on our d-corps, Giordano is still head and shoulders above everyone else.

 

[Flameshomer]

Hamonic > Brodie so far this season IMO. Would like to see him longer before trading. I also like what Stone brings.

 

[Mr Snrub]

Hamonic > Brodie so far this season IMO. Would like to see him longer before trading. I also like what Stone brings.

They are roughly even defensively and one of the guys is on pace to produce more than three times the amount of points as the other. Brodie has really pulled it together, he's playing good hockey, not sure why it seems I'm the only one who can see this.

 

[Volica]

They are roughly even defensively and one of the guys is on pace to produce more than three times the amount of points as the other. Brodie has really pulled it together, he's playing good hockey, not sure why it seems I'm the only one who can see this.

You're not, but the vocal ones will make it seem like you are.
We're significantly worse without Brodie.

 

[JPeeper]

We should trade Gio and Hamilton and tank for Jack Hughes.

Why would we need to trade Gio and Hamilton? Just re-sign Gully in the offseason and we have Hughes locked up. Jack Hughes > Matthews and Eichel

 

[Ace Rimmer]

He should be on the PP

His decision making speed is not quick enough to have him on the PP.