the only reason they avoided it is bc RV happened to sustain an LTIR injury. you cant possibly be this dense.
Speculation: Fire Rob Blake Blow it Up Offseason Thread (update: Robitaille and Blake stay)
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SettlementRichie10
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I think the Fiala/Faber trade is arguably Blake’s biggest mistake behind PLD. And I’m a guy who defended Fiala vociferously, especially during his first year here.
Brock Faber is a bonafide #1 all situations defenseman. It’s undeniable now. He has exponentially more value than a player like Fiala.
Brock Faber is a bonafide #1 all situations defenseman. It’s undeniable now. He has exponentially more value than a player like Fiala.
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For the bold part, A) I don't have this belief, I know it happens. But also B) can you name 2-3 young players from around the NHL this season who knocked down doors and forced legitimately good, proven, healthy (because part of my point was that the Spurgeon injury played a role in Faber getting more ice time in an elevated role) NHL players down the lineup because they were just so insanely good??
Genuine question. Because while I agree it does happen, I certainly wouldn't say it happens often. Honestly, it's pretty damn rare. And it's ESPECIALLY rare when the young player belongs to a playoff team.
I mean I'm thinking maybe Wyatt Johnston from the Stars.. But also that was last year. I'm also pretty sure injuries played a part in Johnston getting his original opportunity (but I'm not 100% sure on that).
Sure, there's young players who make big impacts and push veterans down the lineup but a vast majority of the time that happens it's with non-playoff teams and the veterans the young player pushes down the lineup weren't great players to begin with. Or, it happens when a playoff team loses a guy to injury and a young player gets an unexpected opportunity for a bigger role as a result.
Seriously I've been looking at rosters for the past 20 mins just going "nope.... Nope.... Nope, no one on this roster either." So I'm genuinely interested to hear where all these rookies (or just young players on ELCs) are that are breaking down doors and forcing good NHL players down the lineup.
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You realize that injury happened in pre-season right? You really think they couldn't have done ANYTHING except put him on LITR to get a full roster, nothing at all....not a thing?
Interesting.
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It happened at the END OF THE PRESEASON. Their entire plan was to have a shortened roster because they didn't have cap room for a full 23. Either you are not working with a full tool set upstairs or you are arguing in the worst faith imaginable. No wonder half the board has you muted.
Short-handed Kings adjust to their new normal
Carrying 21 players due to salary cap constraints and down to 19 in uniform for their season opener as a result of Arthur Kaliyev’s suspension and Viktor Arvidsson’s lower-body injury, the Kings’ b…
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Bandit
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You’re arguing with a turnip. Save yourself.It happened at the END OF THE PRESEASON. Their entire plan was to have a shortened roster because they didn't have cap room for a full 23. Either you are not working with a full tool set upstairs or you are arguing in the worst faith imaginable. No wonder half the board has you muted.
Short-handed Kings adjust to their new normal
Carrying 21 players due to salary cap constraints and down to 19 in uniform for their season opener as a result of Arthur Kaliyev’s suspension and Viktor Arvidsson’s lower-body injury, the Kings’ b…
It happened at the END OF THE PRESEASON. Their entire plan was to have a shortened roster because they didn't have cap room for a full 23. Either you are not working with a full tool set upstairs or you are arguing in the worst faith imaginable. No wonder half the board has you muted.
Short-handed Kings adjust to their new normal
Carrying 21 players due to salary cap constraints and down to 19 in uniform for their season opener as a result of Arthur Kaliyev’s suspension and Viktor Arvidsson’s lower-body injury, the Kings’ b…
Did you read the article? They had a 21 man roster, can dress 20, lost one to suspension....for 1 game.....And clearly not the only team to do it,
But yes, again make a mountain out of a molehill because you don't understand how the cap is fluid day to day....
EDIT: Doesn't matter if they can carry 23 or 21....the only way it makes a difference, is on road trips.
Raccoon Jesus
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On playoff teams
Knies walked out of college onto TO's top six
Brendon Brisson was getting minutes on a veteran laden VGK team
Holmstrom and Bolduc in NYI
Beecher and Lohrei in boston (though relegated when others are healthy)
On less than playoff teams
Slafkovsky immediately played on MTL's top line
Lane Hutson walked right in
thosre are literally all from the first 8 teams i looked at
It happens A TON
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It has to start with the front office and the coaching staff and possibly the development staff.
Raccoon Jesus
Todd McLellan is an inside agent
Well, this is alarming, but my give-a-f***-o-meter is at an all time low so if it means what I think it means--oui oui--I'm sorry but I'm rooting for another team until it's all gone.
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Always hated the blake signing also luc. Need a full clear, also maybe trade 8 or 11. Dont be like the sharks and retool til ur players have no value.
Raccoon Jesus
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an't make much of an argument when you, as GM, got the matchup you want, the players you got to 'fix' it (PLD and Fiala), and full health going at it, every condition you want, and objectively have a worse year in the regular season AND playoffs. Of course, the rumors of what that change will be are troubling...but for now, we wait.
DyslexicTom
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I wish I could fail upward in life like Rob Blake. Going from the best prospect pool in all of hockey to 3 consecutive 1st round losses with less wins every season but still you get to have a job.
Even now it's still 50/50 if he goes. And it's 90/10 that Bergevin gets to fail upward into a new GM position, too.
Yay!
Even now it's still 50/50 if he goes. And it's 90/10 that Bergevin gets to fail upward into a new GM position, too.
Yay!
Its their fault they are in the current situation. Hard to feel bad for them about it.
Kopitar had a good series and Doughty did at times but its not enough and they demanded something that was not possible.
