FAN 590: the meeting has ended without any comments, will meet again this week

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NHLFanSince2020

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Anyone read this from the TSN article?

"While another meeting is planned, hockey fans shouldn't get their hopes up. A source close to the talks said he was not very optimistic after Wednesday's meeting."
 

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Recently I have heard on Bob McCown shown and Team 1040 that Fox who owns the regional broadcast rights for 20 of the 26 US teams, have told teams that they want the same revenue sharing deal that the league has nationaly. The reasoning was that FOX would not be able to command the same amount for local advertising because of the lockout. Is this the reason behind all the meetings? These contracts run 2-5 years and could impact clubs like the Wings and Avs. Add to that the fact that the merchandising revenues fell 80% for 2004 and could this financial pressure be having an impact on the negotiations?
 

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vanlady said:
Recently I have heard on Bob McCown shown and Team 1040 that Fox who owns the regional broadcast rights for 20 of the 26 US teams, have told teams that they want the same revenue sharing deal that the league has nationaly. The reasoning was that FOX would not be able to command the same amount for local advertising because of the lockout. Is this the reason behind all the meetings? These contracts run 2-5 years and could impact clubs like the Wings and Avs. Add to that the fact that the merchandising revenues fell 80% for 2004 and could this financial pressure be having an impact on the negotiations?

So what you are saying is fox is demanding the 20 american teams that have local broadcasting deals share thoose monies 100% with the league?
 

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So what you are saying is fox is demanding the 20 american teams that have local broadcasting deals share thoose monies 100% with the league?

No as in if FOX makes money they will share it with the teams as local broadcast rights.
 

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They players need to look at the damage they are causing and get this solved.
 

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Go Flames Go said:
They players need to look at the damage they are causing and get this solved.

That's why I send them emails every day on their website.

I will take credit for the end of the lockout. :lol:
 

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They players need to look at the damage they are causing and get this solved.


Just the players? What about the owners? They do no wrong, huh? They're not the ones who gave some of these players outrageous contracts, but you want to put 100 of the blame on the players. If you're so anti-player I would be led to beleive that you're not going to watch hockey, or at least you shouldn't since your hatred and agenda against the players is so profound, it's almost funny.
 

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Just the players? What about the owners? They do no wrong, huh? They're not the ones who gave some of these players outrageous contracts, but you want to put 100 of the blame on the players. If you're so anti-player I would be led to beleive that you're not going to watch hockey, or at least you shouldn't since your hatred and agenda against the players is so profound, it's almost funny.

Deadline hunting is most definitely Goodenow's MO, so the majority of the blame goes to him for having the real negotiations taking place, AFTER both sides have done damage to the game.

In fact, Bettman's refusal to give Bobby his deadline has been just one of the ways he has outmanouvered Goodenow, this time around.
 

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In fact, Bettman's refusal to give Bobby his deadline has been just one of the ways he has outmanouvered Goodenow, this time around.
i disagree ... unless of course Bettmans prime objective wasnt to have a negotiated settlement.

when you go fishing, do you use bait that will attract fish or repel it ? if bettman wanted to bait goodenow, he should have set a deadline knowing it will bring BG to the table for real negotiations.

by not doing so, this has dragged on almost to the point of no return.

reall good strategy, unless of course you are not sincere in your attempt to get your product back on the ice.

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i disagree ... unless of course Bettmans prime objective wasnt to have a negotiated settlement.

when you go fishing, do you use bait that will attract fish or repel it ? if bettman wanted to bait goodenow, he should have set a deadline knowing it will bring BG to the table for real negotiations.

by not doing so, this has dragged on almost to the point of no return.

reall good strategy, unless of course you are not sincere in your attempt to get your product back on the ice.

dr

By not setting a deadline Bettman has created uncertainty in the PA camp. Nervous players are far more likely to cave if Bettman can take them past the dates that Goodenow outlined as likely being the time when the owners would cave.

The beauty of the strategy is that it sets up the scary (for the players) scenario that Bettman will really follow through and cancel the season or may actually be working towards impasse. Until Gary had made it plain to the PA that he really would let the season slide, there was no chance of them caving in to a cap.
 

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By not setting a deadline Bettman has created uncertainty in the PA camp. Nervous players are far more likely to cave if Bettman can take them past the dates that Goodenow outlined as likely being the time when the owners would cave.

The beauty of the strategy is that it sets up the scary (for the players) scenario that Bettman will really follow through and cancel the season or may actually be working towards impasse. Until Gary had made it plain to the PA that he really would let the season slide, there was no chance of them caving in to a cap.
ok, if the NHL gets impasse, how do they get players ? many of the euro's wont be able to play due to imigration, same with the canadians in the USA and vice versa.

dr

edit: i dont see why a sincere strategy isnt based on negotiating a settlement to see the game back on ice. a strategy geared toward winning impasse is a self fulfilling prophecy and an indication there is no sincerity in the NHL's position.
 
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