Digger12
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And how long do you think it'll take for the NHLPA to recoup that 1.2 billion or so in lost salaries? In a league that'll likely see depressed revenue streams for at least a couple of years no less?
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And how long do you think it'll take for the NHLPA to recoup that 1.2 billion or so in lost salaries? In a league that'll likely see depressed revenue streams for at least a couple of years no less?
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How do you know it will not be negotiated into the next CBA that all existing contracts are extended a year ??Digger12 said:
If a future CBA does not contain linkage what does it matter what the Revenue Stream is if you have a min and max hard cap that all teams are required to meet.
All players have to do is insist that all future contracts they sign in the NHL include an extra year added, or the amount could be partially recouped in a signing bonus in a future contract .. Signing bonuses are unearned money you don't work for or play for.
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The $1.2 Billion in salaries thing is a myth. The league was never going to play the full season under any circumstances. Bettman didn't even bother to make a counter-offer to the NHLPA's September 9 offer. You can argue whether the NHLPA is responsible for part of that lost salary. But there's no way they would've ever seen the whole amount.Digger12 said:
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Coupled with the fact that 1/2 the NHLPA found work in Europe or elsewhere .. Those Salaries what ever they may have been would be off set against the 1.2 Bil suggested figure as well..Weary said:
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Sure thing. All Goody has to do is click his heals together and repeat three times "there's no place like the old CBA" and presto, those contracts will all be honoured with a healthy signing bonus to boot.
Except for the troublesome fact that the NHL honoured all those contracts this past season. Remember all the injured players getting their pay. Nolan's contract rolling over. The owners have fulfilled their obligations for all contracts for 2004-05.
Keep dreaming that the money is coming back.
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What no comical "breakdown" of the figures?
Surely it isn't all that hard to create another complete fabrication with no basis in reality.
C'mon, we could all use a good laugh.
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So if the PA had taken the owners first offer, the NHL would have pulled it off the table and refused to play???
Sure thing.
Well I guess the players could've taken the owners first offer. But that offer would've resulted in salaries below $1.2 Billion. So the $1.2 Billion is still a myth.Thunderstruck said:
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honestly this is the most misleading title and comment i've seen.
a) the NHLPA isn't getting advice, IMG is getting advice. those are two very different things and you should understand that simple fact. they are not "NHLPA agents," they are NHLPA certified agents... all that means is that they've been approved to represent players, however, their number one professional responsibility remains to the player, not the organization that is the NHLPA.
b) they will be looking to challenge RFA, draft-rights, etc... i very much doubt they will be looking at decertification. the only time that decertification would come into the discussion would be if an agent decided that it was in the best interest of his client, at which point he would advise him of that fact. the reason why they will stick to looking long and hard at the RFA's and un-signed draft picks is that it is quite possible they could find a method to make their client a better deal -- and by association, more money for themselves.
news flash!!!
agents one and only concern is making money for their client, and getting their % off of that. that is their job, it is what they do. they look out for their clients best interests only so far as it adds to the value of their client both personally and professionaly. sure, they may like their client as a friend or whatever, but ultimately when they are in the office, board room, wherever it is a professional relationship where money is on the line. this report is completely about agents evaluating their position in terms of money for both their company, and their clients. it has very little directly to do with the NHLPA's position outside of any indirect feeling that may come through their clients, or anything they feel they can pass along to the union for the betterment of their client (note: passing information along in that fashion is very different than the implication of the original post and the title).
jobs
NHLPA - make as much money and create the best working environment possible for their entire body. (obviously it can be argued how much they care about the little guy)
IMG agents (or any other agent/group) - make as much money as possible for player X by exploiting the rules and the situation in front of them as much as possible.
while similar in some ways, those are two different approaches.
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