Even Bob Mckenzie says Canada should have won last year!

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saskhab

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DanyHeatley#1Fan said:
but that gold medal was Canada's until Team Canada choked
Actually, they don't award medals until after the game is finished.

Canada choked, but the Americans won. A lesser team wouldn't have come back like they did. The Americans were very, very talented. In fact, they were the favorites heading into the tournament according to many, though losing Howard to injury caused some to wonder since Montoya was quite young.

I don't think this type of insular debate helps. Canada should be focusing on how to beat the Russians and Americans this time around, not what they would've done differently against a team that isn't coming back to the tournament in the same form. I'm sure the Americans are focusing on how they will beat the Canadians and Russians this time around, and that the Russians are doing the same.
 

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saskhab said:
Actually, they don't award medals until after the game is finished.

Canada choked, but the Americans won. A lesser team wouldn't have come back like they did. The Americans were very, very talented. In fact, they were the favorites heading into the tournament according to many, though losing Howard to injury caused some to wonder since Montoya was quite young.

I don't think this type of insular debate helps. Canada should be focusing on how to beat the Russians and Americans this time around, not what they would've done differently against a team that isn't coming back to the tournament in the same form. I'm sure the Americans are focusing on how they will beat the Canadians and Russians this time around, and that the Russians are doing the same.


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saskhab said:
Actually, they don't award medals until after the game is finished.

Canada choked, but the Americans won. A lesser team wouldn't have come back like they did. The Americans were very, very talented. In fact, they were the favorites heading into the tournament according to many, though losing Howard to injury caused some to wonder since Montoya was quite young.

I don't think this type of insular debate helps. Canada should be focusing on how to beat the Russians and Americans this time around, not what they would've done differently against a team that isn't coming back to the tournament in the same form. I'm sure the Americans are focusing on how they will beat the Canadians and Russians this time around, and that the Russians are doing the same.

LOL, if we concentrate real hard on these boards our team will do better?
 

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Bottom line: The game is 3 periods. The winner is decided after ALL 3 periods... not after two. They didn't finish off the US... that's there fault. It's not some incredible miracle.

The US took it to them in the 3rd, and came out on top. Like it or not thats the way it is. That is how the game is played. The way that last goal went in sucked for Canada, but it could just have easily been scored a different way as the US just peppered Fleury. Stop complaining already and just root them on this year.
 

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Barnaby said:
Bottom line: The game is 3 periods. The winner is decided after ALL 3 periods... not after two. They didn't finish off the US... that's there fault. It's not some incredible miracle.

The US took it to them in the 3rd, and came out on top. Like it or not thats the way it is. That is how the game is played. The way that last goal went in sucked for Canada, but it could just have easily been scored a different way as the US just peppered Fleury.
I do recall at least one eye-popping save by Fleury in that period.
 

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HabLover said:
In a recent interview with ISS, Bob Mckenzie says Canada should have won last year against the USA.


He said that because they were up 3-1 in the 3rd period. I distinctly remember him saying last year that most people had considered the USA the favorites to win last year and the reason it was so crushing for Canada to lose was because they were up 3-1 in the 3rd period. Any team should win any game with a 2 goal lead in the 3rd period. If you ask the experts from last year, the final result, USA getting Gold and Canada getting Silver was the way it was supposed to go, regardless of any events during the actual game.
 

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Of course Canada should have won, they were clearly superior on paper on all areas. They didn't win because they didn't play up to their potential while team USA did that. Does that make team USA not deserving? Hell no, a better team on ice wins the games, not the better team on paper.

Canada should have won based on their huge talent superiority but fortunately games are still decided on the ice.
 

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nomorekids said:
saskhab's infinite wisdom transcends all messageboards :handclap: :yo:
And the Jodie Sweetin Project will never be forgotten. :bow:

You may not be a mod after one of Cali's many re-constructions, but OTP would still welcome you back, nomorekids. I know you've got a sweet gig with the big boys, but you're still NMK from the block, aren't you? :lol

So, bottom line: last year, USA won gold by scoring more goals than Canada in the final. Also, last year was, you know, 12 months ago. Let's get on with our lives.
 

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wilka91 said:
I feel that Russia should have won its third in a row last year. I believe all of Canada feels the same about Canada.

Russia lost to a team (Finland), because Russia wasn't a team (at all), while Finland was a great team (on the ice, not paper).
 

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Personally, I don't understand the concept of 'should have won.' ... perhaps you could explain it to me...

Because every time I have watched a game, the eventual winner won because a series of occurences took place that alowed them to win the game. That could be poor goaltending on the opposing side, poor coaching, or an overwhelming spirit in the winning team... it doesn't matter.

To say a team 'should have won' is to deny the realism of linear time, and negate any results before and after the game.

The Canadian team 'should have' lost, because they did lose. The American team 'should have won' because they did win. To deny that would also be denying every hockey victory you hold close to yourself.
 

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jericholic19 said:
i think its obvious who dropped the ball (err...the puck) last year that cost Canada gold. i feel bad for the guy because of the great deal of pressure he'd been dealing with at the time. but canada lost because him for the most part.
Exactly,Brent Burns but I don't feel bad for him.He didn't just make one little
mistake, he sucked the whole game.
 

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eh. you should all know as hockey fans that your team never gets beat by the other team. Your team beat themselves and gives the win to the other team.
 

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MrMastodonFarm said:
How long have you been sitting on that gold mine of information Professor? :lol

Probably for about as long as HabLover has been stewing over Canada's LOSS in last year's gold medal game.
 
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Canada is the buffalo bills of junior hockey
We've won tons of gold medals so that statement is about as innapropriate as can be.
 

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We've won tons of gold medals so that statement is about as innapropriate as can be.


any mental sports fan who has knowledge of both the NFL and World Juniors would realize he means in the past couple years. :speechles
 

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any mental sports fan who has knowledge of both the NFL and World Juniors would realize he means in the past couple years. :speechles

I realise that's what he means but he's still wrong isn't he? to have that statement be true would mean we would have had to have fallen flat on our face in all world juniors with no sucess but that's far from being the truth isn't it? You can try to twist this any way you want and knowing your history of Canada hating we know you will try but the fact remains we have the type of sucess you can only wish for your hockey team....that's what you don't like. Hopefully you can "mentally" deal with that but it seems from every post you make that it's not possible for you.Now,go hump someone else's leg or get a grip around here.
 

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In the history of Junior hockey Canada has won 20 medals, Russia has won 22...USA has won 4. The Buffalo Bills of WJC hockey? No way.

History tends to repeat itself (not just recent history) and USA's roster looks pretty weak. I'll willing to bet they don't even make the finals.
 

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Rabid Ranger said:
Probably for about as long as HabLover has been stewing over Canada's LOSS in the last year's gold medal game.


so true. i notice he was eagerly waiting to poo-poo the USA's win over UND yesterday. Hopefully Team USA's players won't be bothered by it. Maybe they can console themselves by polishing their GOLD MEDALS :)
 

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nomorekids said:
so true. i notice he was eagerly waiting to poo-poo the USA's win over UND yesterday. Hopefully Team USA's players won't be bothered by it. Maybe they can console themselves by polishing their GOLD MEDALS :)

What with them being so tarnished and all! :)
 

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The thing that bothers me as a Canadian fan is that we have a hard time accepting that we lost last year. If the Americans were leading after two periods, and we came back to win, it would be considered a comeback of the ages. The Americans made their own good luck, and made our own bad luck. I tip my hat to your win last year, and hope we kick your butts hard this year. I can't wait for the tourney to start. Go Canada. ;)
 

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nomorekids said:
Gosh, how much longer is this loss going to be rationalized? It's already NEXT YEAR. Get over it, already. Canada didn't beat themselves. Give some credit where it's due. Jeez.

I'm not gonna say that the US didn't deserve it, or anything like that, but we did score on ourselves.
 

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loadie said:
The thing that bothers me as a Canadian fan is that we have a hard time accepting that we lost last year. ;)

Lost last year? What are you talking about?
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nomorekids said:
so true. i notice he was eagerly waiting to poo-poo the USA's win over UND yesterday. Hopefully Team USA's players won't be bothered by it. Maybe they can console themselves by polishing their GOLD MEDALS :)


Yeah, I love how people that didn't even watch the freaking game were chiming in. What a joke.
 
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