Proposal: Erik Karlsson To NYR

archanfelnsx

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Sens Acquire -Vlad Namestnikov, Anthony Deangelo, 1st Rounder (Not the 9th Overall), and 2nd Rounder

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Rangers Acquire - Erik Karlsson
 

lanceuppercut75

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The biggest / best piece coming back in that package has to be better than any of the pieces you offered.

9th overall can't be off the table, or another team will easily outbid you.
 

Klaus3154

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Ottawa will look for a much bigger package as they should. I do not feel the Rangers should trade away what Ottawa would want. It wouldn’t make sense for the Rangersto acquire all the picks and prospects they did then use it to acquire EK.
Colorado got more then this for Duchene. How could you think this would be enough?
 
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Even if it's the 9th Overall pick, I don't think it is enough value.

9th overall isn't enough to get 1 year of Karlsson? Whose current GM said he won't be able to out bid other teams in contract offers?

The Sens will either trade Karlsson or let him walk for nothing. No team is going to give up a top 10 pick for any rental in this league
 
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Dick Whitman

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9th overall isn't enough to get 1 year of Karlsson? Whose current GM said he won't be able to out bid other teams in contract offers?

The Sens will either trade Karlsson or let him walk for nothing. No team is going to give up a top 10 pick for any rental in this league

As a Sens fan, I'd rather have Karlsson for a year and let him walk than see the Sens take what the OP offered. Also, other teams would EASILY top it.
 

pld459666

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Wanted to see what everyone though about the value of this deal

Sens Acquire -Vlad Namestnikov, Anthony Deangelo, 1st Rounder (Not the 9th Overall), and 2nd Rounder

For

Rangers Acquire - Erik Karlsson

Not a good deal for Ottawa to make.

Even if we took Bobby Ryan back I think the offer is shy
 

Halla

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this is gonna get locked

EK, arguably the best dman in the world for

late 1st
2nd
forward who put up a measly 4 pts in 19 games in NY
#7 dman that isnt good enough in his own end to be an NHL regular


what it would actually take

Andersson/Chytil
Buchnevich
9 Overall
 

BloodRedArmy

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9th overall isn't enough to get 1 year of Karlsson?
Correct.

Whose current GM said he won't be able to out bid other teams in contract offers?
What? When?

The Sens will either trade Karlsson or let him walk for nothing.
Or sign him?

No team is going to give up a top 10 pick for any rental in this league
He is a generational talent. Any team would give up the 9th pick for a full year at $6.5M with exclusive negotiating rights. ANY team.
 
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SML2

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I don't want EK but if we get him for this it's a steal, and the first episode of "flip this defenseman" begins!
 
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The S5

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this is gonna get locked

EK, arguably the best dman in the world for

late 1st
2nd
forward who put up a measly 4 pts in 19 games in NY
#7 dman that isnt good enough in his own end to be an NHL regular


what it would actually take

Andersson/Chytil
Buchnevich
9 Overall

Hahaha..........nope.
 

GAGLine

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This is bad for both teams. If Ottawa trades Karlsson, they can definitely get more back than what is being offered here. The Ranger are rebuilding. Trading for Karlsson is the absolute last thing they should be doing.
 

SML2

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Correct.


What? When?


Or sign him?


He is a generational talent. Any team would give up the 9th pick for a full year at $6.5M with exclusive negotiating rights. ANY team.
We would be fools to do this. We've just stripped the roster down. We are rebuilding. He's going to get top dollar and if he wanted to waste years of his prime being on a non contender, he could do it in Ottawa. Please cross NYR off your any team list.
 

bernmeister

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Although the risk of EK not extending is real and that forces a trade -- no doing a Garth Snow and letting Tavares potentially walk for nothing is an unacceptable parallel esp for Ott. -- the OP offer is way too small.

What was overlooked is extreme degree of competitive bidding for EK.
Nearly every team in the league will bid for that year.
Sure, the fact that it is only a year suppresses the price as opposed to an existing multi-year deal [see McDonagh as exhibit], but it is still a significant price.

Even if that trade were at last minute of final deadline possible, i.e., for half a year of EK as opposed to a full year, he would get more than equiv of OP.

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Once you get EK, you need to extend him. However, this guy is not 22-23 and while not extremely beat up has his battle scars and injuries. Risk of losing his foot speed after a few years is not smart for 6-7 year deal.

Solution:
clear cap space over 1 year,
- something around Zib+Andersson + Buch + Georgeiv
for
2OA + Hanifin rfa rights + cap dump Darling + RD McKeown
- then after Benny Allaire works his goalie guru magic, flip Darling for futures

- trade Smith
- Staal's nmc morphs into partial ntic, trade and move on

- get through Seattle expansion draft if applicable

now with end of year, EK is a UFA unless he opted to not test the market.

See if he'll work with you.
EK thought to be around 10m ish per year on long term

with above cap recovered, offer him $13.5 for 3 seasons only
no nmc
reasonable ntc restrictions
enjoy EK
if a team like Bruins, Leafs etc offers significant enough return, let him go
Let them take on balance of trade, and deal with any issues past that about extending or not. Also a win for Karlsson cause he got his upfront, and if he manages to be injury free and show he can still cut the mustard, his final contract may remain in the 8-10 range, depending on term and other factors.
- profit.

only that scenario or similar works for NYR
 

Liferleafer

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Wanted to see what everyone though about the value of this deal

Sens Acquire -Vlad Namestnikov, Anthony Deangelo, 1st Rounder (Not the 9th Overall), and 2nd Rounder

For

Rangers Acquire - Erik Karlsson
Not the 9th overall....for Karlsson?
 

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