Erik Karlsson Discussion Thread: He mad

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Karlsson's not gonna demand a trade soon, this organization has been amazing to him, he's not gonna bolt. He's gonna wait another year or 2 while our young guys progress and see if management gonna take required steps to make em a contender.

Although we must try to salvage this season, not just for Karlsson but bigger picture of team development.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Phillips signed confirmation thread.

Cowen's thread

Can't find Neil's.

Greening's thread

Boro's thread

Exactly as I remembered

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

People you need to calm down. No 25 year old just demands a trade because he team is sturggling a bit. You guys make it sound like we've been a lotto team for the past 5 years. He's having individual success, and he has many friends on the team and within the org. The team just needs some work on the defense, like holy crap he's not going to demand a trade, the organization has treated him very well so far.

 

[Countdown0]

If this team loses Karlsson I'm just going to stop watching NHL hockey for a while. I wont be able to cheer for another team, but the Sens losing Karlsson... well, I'm glad that it doesn't seem likely to happen any time soon. But I'll be damned if I'm going to give them any money in any manner what so ever if they can't keep our best and most important player invested in the team long term.

 

[HavlatMach9]

by the end of his contract, he'll turn 29. i hope we can at least push to the conference finals by the end of it.

 

[topshelf15]

Exactly as I remembered

Yep,the teams biggest issue is Cowen and Wiercioch not progressing,add in a few injuries.And we get the perfect storm

 

[jbeck5]

Yep,the teams biggest issue is Cowen and Wiercioch not progressing,add in a few injuries.And we get the perfect storm

And now it looks like Ceci is done progressing...sigh.

 

[topshelf15]

I wasnt ok with any of those signings except Cowen. I wasn't ok with the Michalek extension but what could you do

None of them were unexpected though.Phillips was resigned to provide some veteran stability from the bottom 4 ,maybe a year too long .But nothing too bad .Neil got 4 years because the Rangers had offered 3 at almost 3 mil per.

Greening looked every bit the part of a solid top 9 forward.Then he fell off a cliff.

Cowen and Wiercioch were signed in hopes they would grow into top 4 guys ,after showing some growth .They have now since failed .

Boro iam not too sure why people would be upset at signing a decent 6/7 defender at 1.2 mil

9mm 3 years at 4 mil ,15 to 20 goal potential .Multi use forward ,plays both wings,can PK PP .And provide decent veteran support for a young group of forwards.Last season he provided solid production in Macather,s absense,and was a big part of the teams big run .

 

[topshelf15]

And now it looks like Ceci is done progressing...sigh.

I dont see that ,i see a young defender trying to do too much .He works his tail off in the dzone ,and has provided some offensive support in the last few games .He really needs a experienced partner ,this has to be the team,s number 1 goal in the offseason

 

[Sens]

And now it looks like Ceci is done progressing...sigh.

Ceci is basically Preissing... He'll have a longer peak I think but ceilings about the same

 

[topshelf15]

ceci is basically preissing... He'll have a longer peak i think but ceilings about the same

dp,sorry

 

[topshelf15]

Ceci is basically Preissing... He'll have a longer peak I think but ceilings about the same

Thats a pretty big reach,considering Ceci was already a better defender at 20, than Priessing ever was .

 

[Sens]

Thats a pretty big reach,considering Ceci was already a better defender at 20, than Priessing ever was .

Preissing was an all situation defenseman who had a 43 and 38 point season.

He also played a huge role paired with Corvo on our run to the cup.

Maybe your to young to remember how good he was

 

[Jorge Garcia]

Preissing was an all situation defenseman who had a 43 and 38 point season.

He also played a huge role paired with Corvo on our run to the cup.

Maybe your to young to remember how good he was

Preissing was OK, but he did enjoy bottom-pairing matchups and playing with the most talented lineup of forwards in the league.

 

[topshelf15]

Preissing was an all situation defenseman who had a 43 and 38 point season.

He also played a huge role paired with Corvo on our run to the cup.

Maybe your to young to remember how good he was

And maybe your too young too remember how actually weak he was as a defender ,think MA Bergeron .Ceci already plays a better defense game ,if you think otherwise i dont think you watched much of either

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Preissing was an all situation defenseman who had a 43 and 38 point season.

He also played a huge role paired with Corvo on our run to the cup.

Maybe your to young to remember how good he was

The year he was with Ottawa, 7 guys in the NHL had over 100 points. Preissing was tied for the 31/32 spot for points by defensemen. He was also one point ahead of Corvo and two points ahead of Redden (Wade only played 64 games to Preissings 80 though).

Not saying the guy was chopped liver or anything, but the league was a bit different points-wise at that time. And Ottawa basically had an all-star team during the Pizza Line days. Simply looking at point totals isn't the end-all, be-all for a player.

 

[Sens]

And maybe your too young too remember how actually weak he was as a defender ,think MA Bergeron .Ceci already plays a better defense game ,if you think otherwise i dont think you watched much of either

Tom Preissing finished 15th in Norris voting in 2007
http://www.hockey-reference.com/awards/voting-2007.html

Get back to me when Ceci does that

 

[topshelf15]

The year he was with Ottawa, 7 guys in the NHL had over 100 points. Preissing was tied for the 31/32 spot for points by defensemen. He was also one point ahead of Corvo and two points ahead of Redden (Wade only played 64 games to Preissings 80 though).

Not saying the guy was chopped liver or anything, but the league was a bit different points-wise at that time. And Ottawa basically had an all-star team during the Pizza Line days. Simply looking at point totals isn't the end-all, be-all for a player.

Yep ,he was out of the league pretty quickly after signing in LA ,very weak defensive player.Comparing Ceci to him is pretty much as far a reach as you can get

 

[topshelf15]

Tom Preissing finished 15th in Norris voting in 2007
http://www.hockey-reference.com/awards/voting-2007.html

Get back to me when Ceci does that

Think Ceci will ever get past his 326 nhl game mark ??He isnt a good defender ,to compare Ceci with .Ceci is already better than he ever was

 

[jason2020]

If Karlsson demands a trade soon its game over. This franchise will end up like the leafs for the next decade. And honestly I wouldn't blame him at this point he's wasting his prime years here.

If he is traded it would likely to be a team in worse shape ten Ottawa.

 

[Sens]

Think Ceci will ever get past his 326 nhl game mark ??He isnt a good defender ,to compare Ceci with .Ceci is already better than he ever was

So Ceci will finish top 20 in Norris voting when?

 

[Sens]

If he is traded it would likely to be a team in worse shape ten Ottawa.

Why would the Sens want the assets of a team in worse shape? The goal would be to get good players you know

 

[topshelf15]

So Ceci will finish top 20 in Norris voting when?

Yep him scoring on two pretty stacked rosters ,doesnt make him a norris defender sorry bud .Go ahead and poll most here and you wont find many that would agree with you .Preissing was a depth PP dman ,Ceci is a young two way defender still growing into his game ,and is the better defense man period

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Tom Preissing finished 15th in Norris voting in 2007
http://www.hockey-reference.com/awards/voting-2007.html

Get back to me when Ceci does that

Yeah, a few spots behind Phillip Boucher and Brian Rafalski. Such elite company.

 

[topshelf15]

Yeah, a few spots behind Phillip Boucher and Brian Rafalski. Such elite company.

Too may here think Ceci is hot garbage ,the kid is barely 22 years old .And since he came into the league as a 20 year old. Has had to try and carry dmen that arent nhl defenders