ECQF Game 4: Pittsburgh Penguins @ Philadelphia Flyers | 7 PM ET | CBC, TVAS, NBCSN, NBCSP, ATTSN-PT

[Whale Mingo]

I just don’t see anything broad street bullies related in this team though. If you want a tough physical fast team I’d be lookin at the Jets.

I agree, I was referring to the past few years that have left them in the dismal spot they are today. If anything, they've made significant steps away from that attitude. If you look at the games they played well and won this year it was during times they weren't taking penalties and cutting down on shots against.

They just don't have the depth to do that night in and night out. I do think in a couple years they will. As noted above, they are gonna need goaltending as well, though.

 

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

If people did playoff pools I figure you would have to be crazy to not load up on Pens players vs Brian Elliott.

I’m still shocked Mrazek hasn’t gotten at least a sniff at getting some minutes. Not that he has been amazing but his playoff games he’s been pretty solid.

 

[Sam Spade]

I dunno Pens are lethal but I have VGK as the best team in the playoffs.

IF the Pens get past Boston (how I see the ECF) they are home free for the three-peat.

 

[ncm7772]

I think that is incorrect... they definitely loafed for most of the regular season, but the only real places they aren't as good is depth at d past their starters and experience at the backup D position

People are looking at their play during the first half and last month of the regular season.. that is a bad mistake

If they lose its cause teams like Tampa and Boston built themselves better to handle the Pens style... not cause they aren't as good...

There's some truth to what you're saying.

My concerns are Defensive Depth, an injured Kessel and the 2x returners being beat up from playing an insane amount of hockey the past 3 years.

 

[Jacob]

As an outside observer Philly’s D pairing choices make no sense. Putting your two best PMDs and your two biggest plugs together?

 

[CanadianPensFan1]

IF the Pens get past Boston (how I see the ECF) they are home free for the three-peat.

I don't know. There are some GOOD teams in the West.

 

[ncm7772]

IF the Pens get past Boston (how I see the ECF) they are home free for the three-peat.

IDK, man. They won't get past Boston, but if they pull a minor miracle and do so, the West is tough with VGK, Winnipeg and Nashville. SJ ain't look too bad, either.

 

[PattyLafontaine]

Flyers need Torts or someone similar to take over. They need to load up on fast guys with skill and a nasty edge.

Finding legit #1 netminder should be of great importance.

 

[canadianguy77]

So did you buy your first shirsey in '09 or '16?

Your mom goes to college...

 

[Bingo71]

I really can’t think of too many dirty players besides Gudas. I don’t think they have any more or any less dirty players than the average team. Also from watching this series like you said, they have zero physicality.

Watching the Jets series it’s like night and day.

Hartnell, Carcillo, Pronger, Richards, Downie, Hextall, Brown, Hatcher, Rinaldo, etc

 

[Rich Nixon]

I'm in the unfortunate position of knowing plenty of Flyer fans, the phrase "we'd rather kick your ass than win a hockey game" is still prevalent.

Clearly that isn't 100%, but I didn't say it was. Philly, is a special place.

Great. I lived in Pittsburgh long enough to know half the people who own a Crosby t-shirt can't name 5 other players on the team. I also learned that the city's hardcore fans are terrific.

Here's the thing about stereotypes: when you're wrong, you get smacked pretty hard for them. You're wrong, period.

 

[USMC607]

I don't know. There are some GOOD teams in the West.

Agreed...

A more complete Nashville team.
Winnipeg
And I cant count LV out since they've force fed me crow all year.

 

[Whale Mingo]

IF the Pens get past Boston (how I see the ECF) they are home free for the three-peat.

What? Have you seen the West? Several good teams and, we will be the road team this time around. I'm not sure I would sign up to play Nashville as the road team.

It's a tough road this year. We are a good team, a little light on defense that gets covered up by crazy good goaltending, but there is no easy path to the Cup, none.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Yep, which is odd considering who their GM is. They have a lot of issues on that defense as well.

to be fair, they did find one. He's won two Vezina's in Columbus

 

[illpucks]

IF the Pens get past Boston (how I see the ECF) they are home free for the three-peat.

That's pretty direspectful to the west. VGK is good and can take out Pens. Jets maybe. SJ and Nashville I think Pens can take but they both have unfinished business with Pens

 

[Canuck16]

Nine (2g, 7a).

EDIT: i'm off by one. 2G 8A

Crosby had a hat trick game 1. Am i missing something or what ?

 

[XanderCrews34]

As a Pens fan, I am hoping they go for Disco Dan Bylsma

He WAS the coach the last time the Flyers beat the Pens in the playoffs. Just don’t mention that he happened to be doing an incompetent job coaching the Pens.

 

[CanadianPensFan1]

Agreed...

A more complete Nashville team.
Winnipeg
And I cant count LV out since they've force fed me crow all year.

Indeed. SJ is looking good too. Though Anaheim sucks so that's part of it.

Honestly .. This year is SO wide open.

 

[Whale Mingo]

to be fair, they did find one. He's won two Vezina's in Columbus

Ouch.

 

[Bingo71]

So did you buy your first shirsey in '09 or '16?

Ah yes, the old bandwagon accusation. Real original.

 

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

Hartnell, Carcillo, Pronger, Richards, Downie, Hextall, Brown, Hatcher, Rinaldo, etc

Out of all of those I’d maybe call Downie extremely dirty. I mean we could play that game with every NHL team.

That looks nothing out of the ordinary to me.

 

[Rich Nixon]

Ah yes, the old bandwagon accusation. Real original.

Sorry other guy got me heated, nothing personal. Carcillo and Pronger feel like a generation ago, though, let alone Hatcher or Hextall himself, man.

 

[NeelyWasAWarrior]

IF the Pens get past Boston (how I see the ECF) they are home free for the three-peat.

Don't worry, they won't.

 

[illpucks]

Here's the thing..the Pens have scored 5+ on the Flyers every game besides 1. Flyers really suck vs Pens

 

[Bingo71]

Out of all of those I’d maybe call Downie extremely dirty. I mean we could play that game with every NHL team.

That looks nothing out of the ordinary to me.

Maybe someone could help me out here, but there was a season, maybe 8-10 years ago where the Flyers had something like 6 different players suspended at various times for dirty hits.

And you’re right, every team has had their goons but it’s been a team mentality for Philly for years. Some games looked more like a WWE match than a hockey game.