Series Talk: ECQF: Boston Bruins vs Toronto Maple Leafs (Series Tied 3-3)

[BB79]

Why does a Panthers fan hate the Bruins?

What did we ever do to them? Hell, I was even routing for them after they beat us last year

Whatever happens tonight, I'm hoping for a good game.

Oh, we know what happens........we all get a big pile of thumbs ups

 

[Sheppy]

What did we ever do to them? Hell, I was even routing for them after they beat us last year


Oh, we know what happens........we all get a big pile of thumbs ups

Haha, same here.

I like the way they play.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

100%.

To be clear, I am 100% not clowning on Leaf fans in general -- certainly I am not coming after you specifically (despite your username / handle, ha). In general, you guys are great, including @Arthur Morgan who I've seen on the main boards before and @Just Rude who seems very reasonable as well (ie neither of these posters are trolls). I'm sure you (and everyone else) can figure out what I was going for with my post.

And to be completely honest, I'm a little bit jealous of your username / handle. You did well, great job choosing your handle, I mean that sincerely.

All that said, I'm a fan of hockey in general and am not at all a fan of trolls, regardless of which team(s) they cheer for. That's what my post was about

thanks man, didnt expect a call out lol wasnt sure if some people thought my negative comments towards the Leafs core and my list of what I would do was considered trolling by some. I kinda felt like more people than normal agreed with me.

honestly man, at this point its not even considered clowning leafs fans. anything negative actually deserves to be said.

haha I had to change my username from oley49. I had league members watching for my questions fantasy questions and on another site and jumping on my targets before me. and was playing Red Dead 2 at the time lol

 

[BobColesNasalCavity]

Playoff hockey vs TikTok hockey. All it comes down to

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Playoff hockey vs TikTok hockey. All it comes down to

whats TikTok hockey?

 

[myleafs]

Now reports are suggesting it's an injury that has been "lingering"

When he was chasing 70 there was that one play where he went hard to the net and went down a little awkward and hit the boards kinda hard with his back and his head kinda whiplashed...At that time I mentioned it to my buddy and stated that that was very close to being a bad injury...... He did play the next several games but they are saying lingering...

 

[hatterson]

The Bruins play elite playoff style hockey and are built for long runs. It's why in the last 5 years they've won a total of 2 more playoffs games than the Leafs have after round 1.

 

[Coach Parker]

Swayman was the difference. He is a world class goaltender. He is capable of stealing any series.

Why do the Leafs always get stuck playing the best teams that have the best goalies. Lol

I've been thinking it's been more the Leaf D's inability to get the puck to that elite forward group with speed and clean. Leafs forwards not coming low enough to compensate and then the Bruins cycle sets up.

Swayman has been amazing but last game the Leafs D and the transition was exposed. Doesn't help when your best player is injured.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

I've been thinking it's been more the Leaf D's inability to get the puck to that elite forward group with speed and clean. Leafs forwards not coming low enough to compensate and then the Bruins cycle sets up.

Swayman has been amazing but last game the Leafs D and the transition was exposed. Doesn't help when your best player is injured.

the problem is, the Leafs just aren't that good.

 

[AuraSphere]

Swayman was the difference. He is a world class goaltender. He is capable of stealing any series.

Why do the Leafs always get stuck playing the best teams that have the best goalies. Lol

 

[Ratsreign]

whats TikTok hockey?

Heavily-filtered posers on ice with sticks?

 

[danpantz]

The Bruins play elite playoff style hockey and are built for long runs. It's why in the last 5 years they've won a total of 2 more playoffs games than the Leafs have after round 1.

It’s a good thing you chose 5 and not 6 years.

 

[Sensin5]

Don't know if it would be an epic meltdown. Remember, we all hate the Bruins almost as much as we hate the Leafs. The memes that would come from from the Bruins blowing a 3-1 series lead in back-to-back seasons would be glorious.

SO much this. For me its about a 5-10% differential, so going for Bruins this time. I mean, Bruins have their share, but some Leafs posters are more than a little LESS than divine....

 

[myleafs]

The Bruins play elite playoff style hockey and are built for long runs. It's why in the last 5 years they've won a total of 2 more playoffs games than the Leafs have after round 1.

They went to the 2nd rnd 2x and the cup 1x in that span

 

[Coach Parker]

The Bruins play elite playoff style hockey and are built for long runs. It's why in the last 5 years they've won a total of 2 more playoffs games than the Leafs have after round 1.

I think that is in fact true; the Bruins style hockey is indeed built for long runs and compensates for the on paper shortcomings. Their lack of elite top end talent pairs well with this system to 'overachieve' and play above their paper stats.

But when they play a team with a system and elite players, they are up against the wall. Bruins lost in OT game 7 to Florida, Toronto lost in 5. If the Leafs adopted a culture and system that the Bruins have with their talent then I believe they are legitimate Cup contenders with money from JT and MM going to the D. A culture shift at the core.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Forgot about Ian Scott

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Heavily-filtered posers on ice with sticks?

isnt TikTok just filled with teenagers doing weird dances? lol

 

[Golden_Jet]

Heavily-filtered posers on ice with sticks?

Ok now what’s an heavily filtered poser.

 

[FMichael]

I've said it multiple times - years ago.....Dubas handing out blank checks to the Tronna Pretty Boys sealed their fate.....None of them had to 'work' to get their payday - the epitome of the participation medal generation.

All that said - Bring it on Bs!

 

[myleafs]

If Matthews was hurt/sick before the playoffs why didn't they rest him the last few games? Was his chase for 70 more important then the playoff's?

duh

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Forgot about Ian Scott

I dunno what Swayman is even talking about anyways. its not like he was an early pick and it was easy to know whos early in the lead. by the 4th round teams lists are completely different.

I've said it multiple times - years ago.....Dubas handing out blank checks to the Tronna Pretty Boys sealed their fate.....None of them had to 'work' to get their payday - the epitome of the participation medal generation.

All that said - Bring it on Bs!

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one thing that people forget is if it wasn't for covid putting the NHL into a flat cap for 4 years, the cap wouldn't have ever been an issue. when you sign star players to a high % of the cap. the idea is that as the cap rises it take up less % of the cap. that never happened.
also teams pay for potential now a days. look at Ottawa, their entire core is signed long term and they finished 2nd last in the division

that post is just pure nonsense, maybe it would be considered a snub if Swayman was an early pick. in the 4th round teams lists look alot different and Ian Scott looked pretty solid back then. who knows if we took Swayman I would put money down he wouldnt be what he is right now for us.
we stink at developing goalies

 

[hatterson]

They went to the 2nd rnd 2x and the cup 1x in that span

I think that is in fact true; the Bruins style hockey is indeed built for long runs and compensates for the on paper shortcomings. Their lack of elite top end talent pairs well with this system to 'overachieve' and play above their paper stats.

But when they play a team with a system and elite players, they are up against the wall. Bruins lost in OT game 7 to Florida, Toronto lost in 5. If the Leafs adopted a culture and system that the Bruins have with their talent then I believe they are legitimate Cup contenders with money from JT and MM going to the D. A culture shift at the core.

The cup was the year before that.

My general point was that the current core and their intense playoff style deep playoff run reputation is largely just existing on the reputation of Chara. Since he left they've been one of the best regular season teams in the NHL (literally the most points in the NHL since 2020) but have won a total of 2 games in that stretch post round 1.

We'll see if they can actually earn that reputation for themselves this year or not.

 

[BB79]

First they practically gave us Rask, now they snubbed Swayman and ticked him off. Man, the Leafs have no luck when it comes to the Bruins and goalies. Keep em coming!

 

[Coach Parker]

The cup was the year before that.

My general point was that the current core and their intense playoff style deep playoff run reputation is largely just existing on the reputation of Chara. Since he left they've been one of the best regular season teams in the NHL (literally the most points in the NHL since 2020) but have won a total of 2 games in that stretch post round 1.

We'll see if they can actually earn that reputation for themselves this year or not.

I agree with reputation preceding the actual results and am just arguing that the 'culture' built from those versions of the Bruins is producing teams that 'overachieve'. So the culture and playing style is indeed Cup-worthy and that it's the players and overall talent that stop them from going further.

A winning culture is turning good players into great in the playoffs that can't complete with other teams that have a great culture/winning playstyle AND elite players.

 

[FMichael]

one thing that people forget is if it wasn't for covid putting the NHL into a flat cap for 4 years, the cap wouldn't have ever been an issue. when you sign star players to a high % of the cap. the idea is that as the cap rises it take up less % of the cap. that never happened.
also teams pay for potential now a days. look at Ottawa, their entire core is signed long term and they finished 2nd last in the division

Point being is that any 'reasonable' GM keeps his RFAs in check...Comparing the Leafs with the Sens is like asking if you like ketchup or mustard with your turd sandwich - it's still a turd sandwich.