Series Talk: ECQF: (1) Washington Capitals vs. (WC1) Columbus Blue Jackets | Caps Lead Series 3-2

Discussion in 'Stanley Cup Playoffs' started by CBJSTH, Apr 7, 2018.

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Who ya got?! Caps or CBJ?

Poll closed Apr 14, 2018.
  1. WSH (sweep)

    20 vote(s)
    2.7%
  2. CBJ (sweep)

    6 vote(s)
    0.8%
  3. WSH (in 5)

    96 vote(s)
    13.0%
  4. CBJ (in 5)

    16 vote(s)
    2.2%
  5. WSH (in 6)

    232 vote(s)
    31.4%
  6. CBJ (in 6)

    129 vote(s)
    17.5%
  7. WSH (in 7)

    114 vote(s)
    15.4%
  8. CBJ (in 7)

    125 vote(s)
    16.9%
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  1. nothingbeatshockey

    nothingbeatshockey Registered User

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    I agree that Ovechkin probably doesn't make the play that you are referring to - that's true.
    I agree that the Caps haven't made it out of the second round - that's true.
    I don't agree that the two are related. I think they are true-true and unrelated.
    The Caps playoff failures are less of a reflection on Ovie's play than people think. If you want to argue that it's a reflection of his leadership, since he wears the "C", I think that case can be made. But he's close to a point per game playoff performer. The lack of playoff success is more attributable to the play of his teammates than the play of Ovechkin, and ....... to a lack of leadership, which Ovechkin shares a larger blame for.
     
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  2. TaketheCannoli

    TaketheCannoli RIP

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    Ask yourself what their pp% was after the TDL.
     
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  3. JT Kreider

    JT Kreider FIRE AV

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    Yeah, he's nearly point per game. But where are the big goals in big moments? 2013? The Caps had a chance to close out that series and instead they got shutout b2b in Games 6 and 7.

    2015 he scores on Lundqvist in Game 1 and then chirps him with the infamous "all series baby"... And then proceeds to score ONE goal the rest of the series. And was largely invisible in Game 5 and 6 of that series too.

    Yesterday Crosby got that quick goal for the Pens and that set the tone for the rest of the game. If there was any doubt amongst the Pens after the horrid loss in Game 2, He shut that **** down real quick
     
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  4. CarolinaBlueJacket

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    I don't watch enough of the Caps to really comment on someone like Carlson other than to say that he would be a great add to any team, at the right price of course.

    I will say after watching tons of Jackets games that even though Jones and Werenski have identical offensive numbers, I would take Jones in a second because of his defensive abilities. Werenski is not a slouch but Jones' defensive work puts him in elite territory. Jones is a couple of years ahead of Werenski so hopefully Zach will catch him and hopefully the Jackets can keep both.
     
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  5. Kington91

    Kington91 Registered User

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    Well... yeah. Obviously. Jones and Panarin aren't the only players with skill on our team, that isn't what he was insinuating.
     
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    In 2015, the Cap only scored 12 goals in 7 games, so Ovechkin only had 1/6th of his teams' goals and was even +/- for the series, so I'm not sure what you're going for, other than to hit him for trash-talking.

    My larger point was that you tied Ovechkin's inability to make the play Panarin made as the reason the Caps can't get out of the second round, and my response was that this more of a team's failure than any one individual's failure.

    As for comparing Crosby and Ovechkin, stop. Compare anyone to Crosby in the playoffs and they come up short, except maybe the Toews of a couple of years ago. And I can't stand Crosby.
     
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    There is a lot of series left. I don’t know if you can narrow down the results of the last two games down to one factor. It has been two overtime games... It has been extremely close.
     
  9. TaketheCannoli

    TaketheCannoli RIP

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    Our team? Do you think I’m a Caps fan? A fan of some other team?

    Quick without google, who was Mr. Mac’s favorite player?
     
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    Robert Kron...What do I win?
     
  11. TaketheCannoli

    TaketheCannoli RIP

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    You lose :)
     
  12. CarolinaBlueJacket

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    With Robert Kron...you always win!!
     
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    Ovechkin scored early too. Twice. His team's goalie simply wasn't good.
     
  14. Jackets Fan

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    I’m not your buddy, guy!
     
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    Torts is a solid motivator. He should have CBJ avoiding a huge let down better than most. Could still happen, but I like the Jackets to help fold the Caps like a cheap tent
     
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  16. g00n

    g00n He'd have gotten away with it, too

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    Was it 50%? Because if not then they're playing over their heads and will regress. And with both games going to OT that makes a big difference.
     
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    Was the Caps power play 50% as well?
    Both teams are over their heads in that regard by your logic then. It’s only been 2 games ffs. Of course it will regress

    Sounds like sour grapes to me
     
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    These teams are pretty even, but they don't have that much of a chance to win the cup.
     
  19. WubbaLubbaDubDub

    WubbaLubbaDubDub And that's why I always say, Shumshumschilpiddydah

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    And the Capitals scoring chances will dry up if the Jackets play a more disciplined game. They've had 13 pp opportunities in 2 games and 5/7 of their goals in the series have come on the PP.

    Where as the 5 out of the 9 Jackets goals have come 5v5.
     
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    It's pretty crazy that the Jackets are giving up a lot of PP opportunities, the Caps' PP is clicking, and they're still down 2 games.
     
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    OK but as a believer in the importance of the C and of the responsibilities that come with it, i would say that in your last sentence what you see as two independent factors are two things that are very closely related
     
  22. Claude Pepe Lemieux

    Claude Pepe Lemieux Mad at me? That means I did my job great.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    The Capitals will always be a mystery to me. How can this team be so dominant in the regular season and so lame in playoffs.

    And Ovechkin, what does the 'C' on your sweater stand for? Selfish? :rolleyes:
     
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    Selfish starts with the letter "S".
     
  24. Claude Pepe Lemieux

    Claude Pepe Lemieux Mad at me? That means I did my job great.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    I was not trying to make a wordplay, just wanted to say that the C' on the Ovechkin's sweater is for selfish and not captain.
     
  25. TaketheCannoli

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    Well it was bad. It was exactly the same as the Capitals. I guess they will regress together.

    Both were 25% and this series both are at 50%.
     
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