Dylan Larkin looks good so far

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That would be sweet if we can get him that low, But it wouldn't shock me either if he comes in closer to $7 million per.
He's not gonna have close to the comparables to get 7 million. At absolute most he'll get Monahan or MacKinnon money due to inflation. 5.5 is probably not gonna happen either, but I'd be pretty surprised to see him get any more than 6.
 
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I've been figuring 8 x $6.5M for awhile now. Just don't see it being any less than $6M per if they lock him up long term.

If Holland could somehow lock him into 8 x $5.5M that might just do a little bit to recover the horrible contracts he's signed recently. Larkin seems on pace to be an elite 2C, but he's shown flashes that he could develop into more.
 

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last night was one of his most dangerous offensive nights in a while, surprised he didnt have a point or two

and yeah he needs to work on his shooting, he is not a scoring threat at all
 

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last night was one of his most dangerous offensive nights in a while, surprised he didnt have a point or two

and yeah he needs to work on his shooting, he is not a scoring threat at all
 

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Dont know where I saw it now, but a graphic showed that hes one of the best in the league (top 20ish) at controlled zone entries. Hes really good at carrying the puck through the neutral zone and setting up in the offensive end. Eye test confirms it as well
 

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Dont know where I saw it now, but a graphic showed that hes one of the best in the league (top 20ish) at controlled zone entries. Hes really good at carrying the puck through the neutral zone and setting up in the offensive end. Eye test confirms it as well

He's really good at it. Probably because d men have to respect his speed as much as they do. Plus now he gains the zone and then slows it down and waits for his teammates. He used to just rush in and shoot a shot from a bad angle.
 
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He's really good at it. Probably because d men have to respect his speed as much as they do. Plus now he gains the zone and then slows it down and waits for his teammates. He used to just rush in and shoot a shot from a bad angle.

Yeah I meant to say that actually. Its why hes putting up a lot of assists too, the D have to back off a bit to respect his speed but now hes slowing the game down and making them pay for it. Hes definitely developed in that sense because like you said he used to just go to the net with it full speed. Probably also why his goals are down too
 

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this makes sense. how he plays is developing.

He does need to work on his wrist shot. If that becomes better, he will become an even more deadly passer, as people have to fear his shot and commit to him.
 

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this makes sense. how he plays is developing.

He does need to work on his wrist shot. If that becomes better, he will become an even more deadly passer, as people have to fear his shot and commit to him.

Seems like the type that could come back next season with a really good shot because he works so hard. Every article you read about him thats the number one thing that gets talked about (maybe his speed too). He needs to spend some time in the dungeon this summer.

Also that whole working hard thing is also why the wings look at character in a draft. Theyre not looking for guys who block shots, theyre looking for guys who have talent but will also work to improve that talent. He was a great pick for where he was drafted, but imagine if Mantha had Larkins work ethic and character? He would've been a top 5 or 10 pick in that draft.
 
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Seems like the type that could come back next season with a really good shot because he works so hard. Every article you read about him thats the number one thing that gets talked about (maybe his speed too). He needs to spend some time in the dungeon this summer.

Also that whole working hard thing is also why the wings look at character in a draft. Theyre not looking for guys who block shots, theyre looking for guys who have talent but will also work to improve that talent. He was a great pick for where he was drafted, but imagine if Mantha had Larkins work ethic and character? He would've been a top 5 or 10 pick in that draft.

this is exactly why they say they like "character".

Some people will say they should choose skill over work ethic and character... but i am sure Yakupov has more skill than anyone, and relatively no work ethic. the "character" thing also is hard to measure. So who knows in the end.

But if they say they like Rasmussen's Character, maybe it really means they see him as a player who will work hard to be the best he can be. Of course we will always keep our eye on Vilardi, to see if we did well or f'ed up...
 

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this is exactly why they say they like "character".

Some people will say they should choose skill over work ethic and character... but i am sure Yakupov has more skill than anyone, and relatively no work ethic. the "character" thing also is hard to measure. So who knows in the end.

But if they say they like Rasmussen's Character, maybe it really means they see him as a player who will work hard to be the best he can be. Of course we will always keep our eye on Vilardi, to see if we did well or f'ed up...
Yakupov has no shortage of work ethic -he works his butt off every shift. His issue is a lack of hockey IQ; he is lost on the ice
 
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this is exactly why they say they like "character".

Some people will say they should choose skill over work ethic and character... but i am sure Yakupov has more skill than anyone, and relatively no work ethic. the "character" thing also is hard to measure. So who knows in the end.

But if they say they like Rasmussen's Character, maybe it really means they see him as a player who will work hard to be the best he can be. Of course we will always keep our eye on Vilardi, to see if we did well or f'ed up...

Yeah, but honestly Larkin has been amazing in this regard. Every time he has needed to get better at something, he has. Every time he has hit a wall, he's pushed through it. Other guys have had good character and not been able to do it.
 

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You guys are so right about about Dylan's shot, he's got to work on that. I think his stick is too long. Has to wind up to get flex and by that time 9/10 of his shots are deflected. He picked up the strange habit (I think from Z) of shooting from behind the goal line, that doesn't work often. After many games now, even with chances up close, I've realized Larkin just isn't a natural goalscorer.

His skating with the puck though... world class. May be best in the world up there with McDavid.
 

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You guys are so right about about Dylan's shot, he's got to work on that. I think his stick is too long. Has to wind up to get flex and by that time 9/10 of his shots are deflected. He picked up the strange habit (I think from Z) of shooting from behind the goal line, that doesn't work often. After many games now, even with chances up close, I've realized Larkin just isn't a natural goalscorer.

His skating with the puck though... world class. May be best in the world up there with McDavid.

I agree with this. He has the puck so far out in front of him so by the time he wants to shoot it takes too long to get the shot off, or it's just a weak shot if he shoots it while the puck is so far out.
 

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Larkin is a weird player.
3 years into his career and he's a mystery.

Season 1 - spends 4 1/2 months almost dominating the NHL. Looks like a speedy sniper. Goes ice cold the rest of the way. 52 games - 18-20-38 +26, 12.9 shooting percentage
Has never looked anything like that first-half Larkin ever since.
Season 2 - barely belonged in the NHL for the first 60 games - 12-7-19 -18
Season 3 - Kind of like the first year, but not so dramatic, and with assists instead of goals.
First 24 - 4-17-21 -1
Second 24 - 4-13-17 -7
Third 23 - 1-11-12 -6
 

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How do larkins even strength production compare to his pp production throughout the season?

Our pp was red hot thru October and November, but then has been completely terrible ever since

I wonder how strongly that correlates with larkins overall production
 

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Yeah, but honestly Larkin has been amazing in this regard. Every time he has needed to get better at something, he has. Every time he has hit a wall, he's pushed through it. Other guys have had good character and not been able to do it.

Well said. I have been following Larkin for a long time, his work ethic is insane. In Ann Arbor he was regularly the last off the ice and that has not changed in Detroit. TZE has said from the get go that Larkin is being groomed for the C, and for good reason.
 

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