Draft and UDFA Thread 2017-18

[Ola]

2018 NHL Draft rankings for March, and what they mean for the Blackhawks

Brady Tkachuk @ 2

I have since last summer said that NHL GMs won’t underrate Tkachuk. I could definitely see him go 2.

I don’t at all get the talk of him dropping down towards the 10th pick...

 

[Irishguy42]

Tkachuk isn't "second overall" good though...

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I can't believe Chicago of all teams is going to draft in front of the NYR.

Draft Kane and Toews. Dominance. 3 Cups.

Two first round exists.

One horrific season. Draft in front of the NYR.

Give me high peaks and low valleys over constant mediocrity every time.

Honestly, it really rubs me the wrong way that the Rangers are called "consistently mediocre". Consistently mediocre are the Hurricanes or the Rangers of the dark ages. The Rangers have been consistently good but not great.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Honestly, it really rubs me the wrong way that the Rangers are called "consistently mediocre". Consistently mediocre are the Hurricanes or the Rangers of the dark ages. The Rangers have been consistently good but not great.

Ok that was a bad choice of words.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Tkachuk isn't "second overall" good though...

Tkachuk being picked is only good for 3 and 4.

 

[Ola]

Think highly of Kravtsov just as much as the next but are we really gonna take him over Bouchard/dobson/Farabee if we have the 9th pick?

Why are you guys so high on Kravtsov?

 

[GregSirico]

Tkachuk being picked is only good for 3 and 4.

I have him at like 7.

 

[Joey Bones]

I'd move him for a top 3 pick but that's about it.

He's not that consistent to receive a top 3 pick, IMO.

 

[GregSirico]

He's not that consistent to receive a top 3 pick, IMO.

I think you're undervaluing Kreider quite a bit.

 

[Joey Bones]

I think you're undervaluing Kreider quite a bit.

I don't see why NYR would move him, is all I'm saying.

A top 3 pick, in this draft especially, is gonna cost an arm and a leg. A high end prospect, another high draft choice and a middle six forward/defenseman. Kreider alone won't get the 3rd overall. He isn't Kessel and I don't think Gorton will overpay.

 

[GregSirico]

I don't see why NYR would move him, is all I'm saying.

A top 3 pick, in this draft especially, is gonna cost an arm and a leg. A high end prospect, another high draft choice and a middle six forward/defenseman. Kreider alone won't get the 3rd overall. He isn't Kessel and I don't think Gorton will overpay.

I think we all get caught up in the "futures" club on this board a little too much. Some teams who are close to winning a cup will take the risk and take a top 6 forward if that puts in Cup contention over a draft pick (even if that kid turns out to be a good player)

 

[Ghost of jas]

I don't see why NYR would move him, is all I'm saying.

A top 3 pick, in this draft especially, is gonna cost an arm and a leg. A high end prospect, another high draft choice and a middle six forward/defenseman. Kreider alone won't get the 3rd overall. He isn't Kessel and I don't think Gorton will overpay.

I don’t think they move him, either. I think they’re watching him to see if he steps up as a leader. He’s already shown to be a strong influence on Zibanejad and Buch.

 

[Joey Bones]

I think we all get caught up in the "futures" club on this board a little too much. Some teams who are close to winning a cup will take the risk and take a top 6 forward if that puts in Cup contention over a draft pick (even if that kid turns out to be a good player)

But we're talking about teams who have been missing playoffs for years. Why would they want just Kreider when they could have Svechnikov or Zadina?

Potential Laine > Mediocre Kessel

Which would you rather take? I'm not trying to sound rash, but I think logically a rebuilding, lower end team would want the potential superstar.

 

[GregSirico]

But we're talking about teams who have been missing playoffs for years. Why would they want just Kreider when they could have Svechnikov or Zadina?

Potential Laine > Mediocre Kessel

Which would you rather take? I'm not trying to sound rash, but I think logically a rebuilding, lower end team would want the potential superstar.

 

[Joey Bones]

I don’t think they move him, either. I think they’re watching him to see if he steps up as a leader. He’s already shown to be a strong influence on Zibanejad and Buch.

Agreed. IMO, I think that has better value, ATM, than to overpay at the draft. NYR should add to that with what picks they have.

 

[Joey Bones]

You do know Chiarelli did bring the Oilers up for a good playoff run last year, right?

 

[ManUtdTobbe]

Why are you guys so high on Kravtsov?

Because he's REALLY good

 

[GregSirico]

You do know Chiarelli did bring the Oilers up for a good playoff run last year, right?

That's my point. You don't think he knows his team has some solid pieces that can win? Yes they can and he might be inclined enough to make a move like that.

 

[GregSirico]

FYI, I love Chris Kreider. I don't want to trade him, just throwing ideas out there that do make some sense.

 

[YoSoyLalo]

That's my point. You don't think he knows his team has some solid pieces that can win? Yes they can and he might be inclined enough to make a move like that.

He also might trade good/high end players for downgrades

Cough klefbom cough

 

[Joey Bones]

FYI, I love Chris Kreider. I don't want to trade him, just throwing ideas out there that do make some sense.

I don't think it makes total sense, though. But I guess we'll leave it at that....

 

[GregSirico]

He also might trade good/high end players for downgrades

Cough klefbom cough

Ha. Fair point.

 

[Ghost of jas]

He also will trade good/high end players for downgrades

Cough klefbom cough

Fixed that for you.

 

[Mac n Gs]

Why are you guys so high on Kravtsov?

He’s lighting up the KHL playoffs right now, and from the few clips I’ve seen of him, he’s a big kid that skates well and has some really nifty hands. Already has a pro-sized frame and is coming off a strong MHL year last season. Steve K likes him too

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Prospect board is comparing Lafreniere to McDavid.