HF Habs: Donald Beauchamp Will Step Down As VP of Communications After 25 Years

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He added that ("je parle librement ici", he took the time to say) Bergevin is a control freak, that he's way too present in the team's entourage, that if he wants to coach, he should do it or he should leave the job to his coach. Implying that Julien was being micromanaged. Which would explain a lot of things.


Well we all already kind of know that. It's almost crystal clear even from the outside that MB is a control freak. Also the only reality where a coach of Julien's stature doesn't bring his team with him is a reality where he's not calling the shot. There's no way Julien would not make change to the coaching staff if he could. Those are men hired by MB and maybe MT not Claude Julien. Usually when a coach like him is hired he brings his men with him.
 
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The innuendos Tremblay made are a clear reflexion of the internal struggles within the Habs' brass. I don't like Tremblay AT ALL. He's a chicken**** swine. BUT, he's plugged. And I take what he says or let's on very seriously.

He believes Bergevin's country club will be dismantled and that Molson will put him on a very short leash by hiring someone to oversee MB's work.

Out of the blue, he mentioned two names (not a fan of both, BTW): Roy (I heard a rumor from someone while on vacation, blabla) and...Carbonneau. Why the f... would he mention Carbo??? Must be something there. Or at least some stuff to dig out. I know for a fact that Carbo HATES Bergevin. Can't stand him. Not a lot of the Alumni do BTW. That's well known.

He added that ("je parle librement ici", he took the time to say) Bergevin is a control freak, that he's way too present in the team's entourage, that if he wants to coach, he should do it or he should leave the job to his coach. Implying that Julien was being micromanaged. Which would explain a lot of things.

Thanks for taking the time to post a summary. Good stuff. Should be an interesting next few weeks for Habs related news. Some changes are really needed and long overdue if you ask me.
 
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Too bad the GM is not stepping down. Too bad Molson is not selling the team

I can support the stepping down/firing of the GM. But I am not going to jump on the wagon of Molson should sell the team. Not because I don't want him too but because so many moving parts would have to line up, the logistics of which would be difficult to say the least.

One does not simply put an add on Kijiji " Montreal Canadiens Hockey club -- Heavily used, pretty dinged up, needs a lot of work but great potential for someone willing to put the time in -- $1,000,000,000.00 O.B.O."

In other words, I am not going to get my hopes up for this and spend the next whatever amount of my life hoping it will happen.

I would much more easily devote some time to hoping that a president is hired and Molson takes a back seat.
 
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Well we all already kind of know that. It's almost crystal clear even from the outside that MB is a control freak. Also the only reality where a coach of Julien's stature doesn't bring his team with him is a reality where he's not calling the shot. There's no way Julien would not make change to the coaching staff if he could. Those are men hired by MB and maybe MT not Claude Julien. Usually when a coach like him is hired he brings his men with him.

Of course Julien said he's ready to give Chucky a shot at centre and Bergevin doubled down in the media with his "he'll never be a centre" BS.

It's been obvious for a long while that Bergevin is too insecure to let others do their jobs without constant interference.

And to think there are still people apologizing for that incompetent pile of foulness.
 

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Well, if you listen to the organisation's porte-voix Mario Tremblay, changes could shock people. That's what he said tonight at Mario Languesale's show.

Yeah, I caught that too, when Langue-Sale was summing up just before saying goodbye to Tremblay. Something along the lines that changes are coming and they are going to be far greater than expected, if I recall correctly.

After 6 years of MB, I can frankly say very little has been a welcome "surprise".
 

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Of course Julien said he's ready to give Chucky a shot at centre and Bergevin doubled down in the media with his "he'll never be a centre" BS.

It's been obvious for a long while that Bergevin is too insecure to let others do their jobs without constant interference.

And to think there are still people apologizing for that incompetent pile of foulness.

He knows he’d look like a complete moron if he allowed Galchenyuk to play center after his experiment and comments in the summer. He’s a fool. The day he gets booted is the day the team starts moving another directions.
 

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He knows he’d look like a complete moron if he allowed Galchenyuk to play center after his experiment and comments in the summer. He’s a fool. The day he gets booted is the day the team starts moving another directions.

The day MB gets the boot is the day I'd like to see 24 hours of uninterrupted celebrations on this site, with the Mods standing on the sidelines (hoping and assuming they'd understand why we'd need this) and letting us all celebrate to our heart's content. The feeling of elation would be beyond anything we've ever experienced, would surpass what we went through with the MT and DD exits. It can't happen fast enough.
 

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Come on guys, Langlois is just trying to keep the people listening to the show (yes all 5 of you guys) hooked on another controversial statement. and Tremblay ...yadda yadda yadda... still nothing he ever says amounts to anything. Broke the galchenyuk rehab story ... wow great job buddy... i'm sure you had the player's interest at heart doing that. The guy is so narrow minded and self centered that his fantasy is probably to play a role in Roy's return to the habs '' c'est moee quya ramner patrick EEEE Roy '' . I was not a big fan of his, and When he made the comments to the officer when he got pulled over from his DUI '' Fais pas ton P.K. '' it sealed it for me. He will never make it back on my good side. So i stand here with an everlasting negative bias.

So riding that wave of BS gossips there is a proud langue-sale ... offering his daily controversies just to ensure there is enough zombies that turn their heads so he can keep his show running. we can't have a f***ing night off ... caught him in the car a couple of times ... he's the hockey version of the huntington mayor... no idea how he's tolerated by players/coaches/organizations/fans.
 

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The innuendos Tremblay made are a clear reflexion of the internal struggles within the Habs' brass. I don't like Tremblay AT ALL. He's a chicken**** swine. BUT, he's plugged. And I take what he says or let's on very seriously.

He believes Bergevin's country club will be dismantled and that Molson will put him on a very short leash by hiring someone to oversee MB's work.

Out of the blue, he mentioned two names (not a fan of both, BTW): Roy (I heard a rumor from someone while on vacation, blabla) and...Carbonneau. Why the f... would he mention Carbo??? Must be something there. Or at least some stuff to dig out. I know for a fact that Carbo HATES Bergevin. Can't stand him. Not a lot of the Alumni do BTW. That's well known.

He added that ("je parle librement ici", he took the time to say) Bergevin is a control freak, that he's way too present in the team's entourage, that if he wants to coach, he should do it or he should leave the job to his coach. Implying that Julien was being micromanaged. Which would explain a lot of things.

So much content in this one post -- it ties a couple of loose ends and gives us an indication that we weren't all that far off in terms of the vibes most of us have been getting from the outside looking in.

Agreed on Tremblay, he's a loose cannon, which is not good for the organization but as a fan, he's a source who can provide elements of value that you can't get elsewhere or that are more cryptic when coming from elsewhere.

Second, the alumni have been on a tear since the team has been cratering in October, about how they want back in and they're not being given opportunities. It all started with Tremblay and others asking rhetorically on AC, as to why couldn't someone like Carbo or Damp House be called in to spend time with the team's centers and help them manage the game better from the position, teach them faceoffs, etc. This type of questioning has gone on repeatedly on AC, they moved from faceoffs to other aspects of the game that they felt players would benefit from their knowledge.

I doubt Tremblay would have specifically used the words "country club", but the idea of one being in place and needing to be ousted was already an alarm that has been sounded repeatedly by the likes of Denis Gauthier on AC, who specifically called out Bergevin for only hiring friends and how the time has been long overdue to get rid of deadwood like Carrière and Dudley. If Molson has heeded the call, then it would follow your short leash comment. However, Bergevin and Molson are as thick as thieves so I'll believe it when I see it.

As for the names he mentioned, Roy is the most plausible given how he's been seen meeting Molson (punditry 101 -- they're sitting at the same table, something is up). And the micromanaging part is all too evident since there are traces of his edicts that are trickling down to the coaching staff, namely the Galchenyuk on the wing thing and JJD the Teflon Dung. The way JJD has been able to survive the most improbable of situations including the fact that he has sucked, if there were a nuclear wipeout, cockroaches and JJD would be the only living beings left on Earth. As for Carbo, I don't see it. If he's to be involved, it'll be on ice level, in an assistant coaching capacity but not beyond that.

Finally, Molson himself is guilty of micromanaging his business and meddles into areas that are best left to others. I believe it was you who was mentioning how the company you are or were associated with had dealings with Molson directly and rather than delegate logo designs to an employee, he chose to directly get involved, which is a total waste of time for someone who has so much on his plate. All of this to say that Molson and Bergevin are each running the business with similar flaws, except those of Bergevin go to an even greater extreme.

There is no way that the hierachy, responsibilities, those entrusted with them and the reporting structure within the org. can look anywhere close to what it is looking now. Otherwise, the idea of change being implemented is just bogus.
 

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Donald was actually a decent fellow, allowed several school trip visits for kids from my community, really was a nice guy and always accommodating. I think Kevin Gilmore's pro-active way of approaching fans and media with 24cH and a whole bunch of other initiatives maybe made him look like someone who was a bit of an usher a times ... My 2 cents ...
 

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Ray Lalonde on AC last evening, had a similar thought. Why is the announcement being made now and not three weeks from now or in July.

Lalonde was asked if the type of info that the Comm. Dept. typically issues re "upper body injury", "lower body injury", etc. constitutes corporate info policy or does it orginate from the Comm. Dept.

Lalonde answered without hesitation that it is corporate policy. And added that for many years, the org. has been a little too conservative, too fearful and too distrustful. In 2018, anyone can get that type of info anywhere. While several other teams tend to get ahead of the info, the Habs like certain other teams, are hesitating, are shielding info. and are not being transparent, when fans have a right to know what is going on with the team.

Still begs the question what it is that Beauchamp's departure, signals.
 

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As much as I dislike Bergevin, bringing in the likes of Roy or S. Savard would be a total disaster. I think Molson is only keeping him because of his close relationship with P. Brisson in the hope of signing Tavares. Beauchamp was a corporate guy so under Molson's directives, not Bergevin's. I'm sure he knows what's ahead and didn't wanna deal with the upcoming shitshow this summer. Molson's in the entertainment business so having clowns like M. Tremblay or Ron Fournier around the team helps him keep people's interest up. No matter what you think of Beauchamp's professional skills, I can absolutely understand why he didn't wanna deal with this circus. Timmins will be next, right after the draft. Yes, Bergevin is an issue but Molson is a much bigger problem.
 
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... Beauchamp was a corporate guy so under Molson's directives, not Bergevin's. I'm sure he knows what's ahead and didn't wanna deal with the upcoming ****show this summer...

Funny, I just read this. From R. Tremblay:
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Le Casino, Stevenson, Staub et Beauchamp
"...j’apprenais hier que Marc Bergevin aurait même eu un conseiller personnel en communications et relations publiques. On parle de Martin Spalding, de Bell Média. Sans doute un ami. Mais comme je n’ai pas eu le temps de valider avec une deuxième source, je vous livre l’info avec une certaine réserve."

"...heard yesterday that Marc Bergevin got his own personal communications and PR advisor. Martin Spalding from Bell Media. Probably a friend. But I didn't have time to validate from other sources..."

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"probably a friend" made me chuckle :laugh:
 

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Funny, I just read this. From R. Tremblay:
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Le Casino, Stevenson, Staub et Beauchamp
"...j’apprenais hier que Marc Bergevin aurait même eu un conseiller personnel en communications et relations publiques. On parle de Martin Spalding, de Bell Média. Sans doute un ami. Mais comme je n’ai pas eu le temps de valider avec une deuxième source, je vous livre l’info avec une certaine réserve."

"...heard yesterday that Marc Bergevin got his own personal communications and PR advisor. Martin Spalding from Bell Media. Probably a friend. But I didn't have time to validate from other sources..."

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"probably a friend" made me chuckle :laugh:

Calls for a new coined term.

Népotriste -- a sad collection of friends and family receiving hand-outs with no accountability required.
 

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So is Beauchamp quitting is job, an indication of the beginning of something? The timing of it may suggest that he was forced to leave, as Ray Lalonde himself suggested, Beauchamp doesn't like to attract attention to himself and doing it now, has the opposite effect.

Elliotte Friedman's take:

But for those Canadiens fans looking for another piece of the large jigsaw puzzle…

“The other thing I wanted to say about Montreal now that you brought it up,” noted Friedman. “I wanted to mention something about Donald Beauchamp, who got let go after 25 years. Running the media relations in Montreal, that is the ultimate tap dance. And he handled it so well for a long time and they’re going to miss him.

“I think it’s the start of some changes in Montreal and the organization. I think this is going to be an interesting offseason for the Canadiens.”

Friedman explores dynamic between Islanders and Tavares

I never thought that Beauchamp leaving would be that big of an indicator of changes. He's just a conduit and spin doctor, you can always find a new bulldog mouthpiece. He's not exactly very high in the pecking order of hockey-related personnel. Talk to me about replacing the AHL coach, the team's top pro and amateur scouts, poaching from the best personnel elsewhere -- then we can talk about real changes.
 

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I never thought that Beauchamp leaving would be that big of an indicator of changes. He's just a conduit and spin doctor, you can always find a new bulldog mouthpiece. He's not exactly very high in the pecking order of hockey-related personnel. Talk to me about replacing the AHL coach, the team's top pro and amateur scouts, poaching from the best personnel elsewhere -- then we can talk about real changes.

He's been in the organization since the 90s. He's been through regime changes. He's either leaving because it's time or something else.

He's the kind of person, at least in profile, which would quit in protest if he disagreed with the direction of the team. Not a stooge like Lapointe or Carriere.

But you are right that everyone is looking for a sign because nothing shows that this organization plans to make a change.
 

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He's been in the organization since the 90s. He's been through regime changes. He's either leaving because it's time or something else.

He's the kind of person, at least in profile, which would quit in protest if he disagreed with the direction of the team. Not a stooge like Lapointe or Carriere.

What makes you believe he's the kind of person who would quit in protest because he disagrees with the direction of the team? If some info is to be believed, it was more a firing dressed up as a departure so as to protect a long time employee.

But you are right that everyone is looking for a sign because nothing shows that this organization plans to make a change.

The sign we have right now is MB saying a week ago that he's seen things internally that he isn't pleased with and will take the necessary steps in fixing that. Even Molson came out and said as much. So we have gotten the sign that changes will come.

As for what changes they'll make, it's useless waiting for them to announce any now when both the NHL and AHL seasons aren't over yet.
 

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What makes you believe he's the kind of person who would quit in protest because he disagrees with the direction of the team? If some info is to be believed, it was more a firing dressed up as a departure so as to protect a long time employee.

Because like I said, he's been around for a long time. Look at the U.S. political scene right now. The long term people quit in protest. The people appointed by by the President are usually fired by him. You don't quit if you were a stooge in the first place. That's the point I was making.

The sign we have right now is MB saying a week ago that he's seen things internally that he isn't pleased with and will take the necessary steps in fixing that. Even Molson came out and said as much. So we have gotten the sign that changes will come.

As for what changes they'll make, it's useless waiting for them to announce any now when both the NHL and AHL seasons aren't over yet.

Bergevin saying he isn't pleased with the situation he's created? Don't believe it for a second. Bergevin saying he isn't pleased with the people he didn't appoint? That I buy.

Molson and Bergevin also repeat themselves every year whether the season was good or bad. It's always a leadership and injury problem.
 

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Donald has 3 weeks to go but never mind that, he's already been removed from the hockey ops chart: Hockey Operations

Resignation and valued services rendered, huh?
 

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On Dave Morissette, they took a more direct approach. Bergeron said that he's known Beauchamp for years, he used to coach him and they've maintained a relationship since.

Bergeron affirms that Beauchamp was probably asked to leave, he's convinced it's not a decision he made. Morissette believes it's a precursor to something else.

And then Bergeron lost it, as he always does and started to blast the Habs and provided the following in an exchange with Louis Jean:
  • They've become a country club! Someone has to come in from the outside right now. If Roy meets with Molson and gets a clear mandate, then let's go. It can't be someone Bergevin knows. The assistant coach in Laval is the son of the GM of the Rockets. It's all about good friends, family and friends.
  • I've known a similar situation with the Nords: management has been bad over many years and first round picks that don't pan out, similar to what we have with the Habs.
  • The Habs vision is deficient: at one point they've favored big players without due regard for talent.
  • John Tavares won't sign with Montreal. He'll use the Habs however (to sign elsewhere).
  • Who's going to pay the price in the event of changes -- individuals who have no decision-making power.
  • It's been 6 years. Just how many more years does Bergevin need?
  • I used to have an unwritten condition in my contract: "you have to win."
I wouldn't normally quote Bergeron as I know he's not a valued pundit but his shoot-from-the-hip style begets a lot of comments that tell it like it is. May prompt someone else to come forward and speak up. It's the only way that Bergevin's cushy ownership support is going to start feeling less so.
 

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On Dave Morissette, they took a more direct approach. Bergeron said that he's known Beauchamp for years, he used to coach him and they've maintained a relationship since.

Bergeron affirms that Beauchamp was probably asked to leave, he's convinced it's not a decision he made. Morissette believes it's a precursor to something else.

And then Bergeron lost it, as he always does and started to blast the Habs and provided the following in an exchange with Louis Jean:
  • They've become a country club! Someone has to come in from the outside right now. If Roy meets with Molson and gets a clear mandate, then let's go. It can't be someone Bergevin knows. The assistant coach in Laval is the son of the GM of the Rockets. It's all about good friends, family and friends.
  • I've known a similar situation with the Nords: management has been bad over many years and first round picks that don't pan out, similar to what we have with the Habs.
  • The Habs vision is deficient: at one point they've favored big players without due regard for talent.
  • John Tavares won't sign with Montreal. He'll use the Habs however (to sign elsewhere).
  • Who's going to pay the price in the event of changes -- individuals who have no decision-making power.
  • It's been 6 years. Just how many more years does Bergevin need?
  • I used to have an unwritten condition in my contract: "you have to win."
I wouldn't normally quote Bergeron as I know he's not a valued pundit but his shoot-from-the-hip style begets a lot of comments that tell it like it is. May prompt someone else to come forward and speak up. It's the only way that Bergevin's cushy ownership support is going to start feeling less so.

I love it. Finally, french media is getting its hands dirty. More dirt will come out of this. Bergeron bringing up Roy's name too..
 

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