Did Marchand get punched or wrecked clean? (MOD NOTICE post #175)

[TD Charlie]

Is there another angle? Can’t see the right hand from this angle.

There are two. Neither show the contact. Logic is required.

 

[Divine]

 

[Fatass]

There are two. Neither show the contact. Logic is required.

What is this logical conclusion based on though. There’s zero evidence of a punch. To me, from what we can see, Marchand skates into contact and got the worst of it. It wasn’t even that nasty of a play

 

[Nocashstyle]

You can legitimately search YouTube for “Marchand sucker punch” and there’s at minimum 4 different legitimate sucker punches Marchand has thrown. Not this freeze frame/analyze every second garbage.

He’s a clown. I don’t feel bad.

 

[TD Charlie]

What is this logical conclusion based on though. There’s zero evidence of a punch. To me, from what we can see, Marchand skates into contact and got the worst of it. It wasn’t even that nasty of a play

It’s kinda like when a puck crosses the goal line, and then a goalie covers it. No, you can’t see the puck so there’s no way to say for sure where it is. But everybody knows it’s there. Logic required.

 

[Ratsreign]

Touching his face? That earned Maroon a misconduct the other night.

I can’t tell the intent. Knowing everything we both know about these two players, I’m not sure how else I’m supposed to interpret the play when there’s clearly a punching motion, and the punch lands on Marchands face. I’m not saying he’s trying to maim the guy, but he’s not doing this to hug him either

Maroon got tossed because he started shit while the puck was not in play.
Cousins probably called him Fat Pat to set him off, so he also got a misconduct.

 

[TD Charlie]

You can legitimately search YouTube for “Marchand sucker punch” and there’s at minimum of 4 different legitimate sucker punches Marchand has thrown. Not this freeze frame/analyze ever second garbage.

He’s a clown. I don’t feel bad.

He’s a dick. For sure. Still hilarious watching people defend a guy who is really no different than Marchand, when the video clip is all over the thread

 

[Ratsreign]

It's a play that's very tough to see in real time. If you're a ref, unless you're right there it'll be very difficult to pick up. Same for the bench. It's only going to get caught in review more than likely. And we all know DOPS doesn't care. Half of the dirty plays that occur in the game that get former players, coaches, refs, etc. irate don't even get a review from Parros and crew.

There's dozens to hundreds of examples of this just from this season alone.

Let's stop pretending that they care. Nobody who actually watches the game and has for years thinks the job they do is even remotely acceptable.

Marchand would’ve known, right? He didn’t go back after Bennett later in the game. Maybe he just decided he didn’t want any of that smoke, decided he’d save it for if Barkov changed his mind

 

[PB37]

No call on the ice, no reaction on the bench, no hearing from DOPS, but sure we should just go with your opinion, lol why not

In real time, nobody saw it. But like others and I have said, bracing for a hit with your lead shoulder and whipping your far arm out in a punching motion at the same time isn't a normal reaction. I still can't see if the punch connects or not, but I see Marchand's head snap back and the way he got up afterwards suggests there was contact. But not enough there for the DOPS to go on without another angle.

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

Is there another angle? Can’t see the right hand from this angle.

https://x.com/_mikesullivan/status/1789331059953336537?s=46

Looks a lot more like glove to the face in this one.

Either way, Bruins had 40mins to respond if they thought it was bad. They did nothing

 

[Chaos2k7]

In real time, nobody saw it. But like others and I have said, bracing for a hit with your lead shoulder and whipping your far arm out in a punching motion at the same time isn't a normal reaction. I still can't see if the punch connects or not, but I see Marchand's head snap back and the way he got up afterwards suggests there was contact. But not enough there for the DOPS to go on without another angle.

I agree it's possible/likely he hits him, I just can't justify the rest of the jumping to conclusions without something more concrete. Bang bang play tough to assume anything.

Not that that is stopping anyone

 

[Three On Zero]

Clean hit.

 

[GoldenSeal]

It looked accidental more than anything.

 

[Dr Quincy]

It’s kinda like when a puck crosses the goal line, and then a goalie covers it. No, you can’t see the puck so there’s no way to say for sure where it is. But everybody knows it’s there. Logic required.

This is a good analogy and explains why the NHL didn't punish anyone. You can't count a goal you can't see, even if it logically was in. You can't suspend a player for a punch you can't see even if logic says it happened.

 

[TD Charlie]

Marchand would’ve known, right? He didn’t go back after Bennett later in the game. Maybe he just decided he didn’t want any of that smoke, decided he’d save it for if Barkov changed his mind

Marchand was f***ed up. With this roster there’s a better chance of Pastrnak taking another fight than anybody else doing anything.

 

[Viqsi]

This is a good analogy and explains why the NHL didn't punish anyone. You can't count a goal you can't see, even if it logically was in. You can't suspend a player for a punch you can't see even if logic says it happened.

As a Jackets fan observing this thread, I feel compelled to respond to this with a reminder of the Wes Walz Pants incident, because yes of course we're still salty.

:proceeds to warn and threadban self for thread hijacking:

 

[Dr Quincy]

As a Jackets fan observing this thread, I feel compelled to respond to this with a reminder of the Wes Walz Pants incident, because yes of course we're still salty.

:proceeds to warn and threadban self for thread hijacking:

I was thinking most recently of the goal in the TOR-BOS series... I think game 7? Maybe 6? I'm pretty sure Toronto scored. But pretty sure isn't going to be called a goal in a playoff game.

But I get your point.

 

[Ratsreign]

https://x.com/_mikesullivan/status/1789331059953336537?s=46

Looks a lot more like glove to the face in this one.

Either way, Bruins had 40mins to respond if they thought it was bad. They did nothing

This view shows that the Bs fan(s) upset that they also missed an icing call on the play are the ones who missed something.

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

Looked like he extended his arm for the punch.

 

[Ugene Magic]

In real time, nobody saw it. But like others and I have said, bracing for a hit with your lead shoulder and whipping your far arm out in a punching motion at the same time isn't a normal reaction. I still can't see if the punch connects or not, but I see Marchand's head snap back and the way he got up afterwards suggests there was contact. But not enough there for the DOPS to go on without another angle.

Marchand turns awkwardly causing the contact and Bennett awkward hit. Also, people are not acknowledging Marchand's fall into the boards rather heavily.

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

This view shows that the Bs fan(s) upset that they also missed an icing call on the play are the ones who missed something.

I couldn’t care less about the icing?

Maybe the missed one from game 2 though haha

More upset if they thought it was a dirty play on the captain, they did absolutely nothing to Bennett to respond to it.

Pasta gotta go out and fight him too? Great job boys!

Either way, can’t win a playoff game showing up for ~8minutes

Call on Lauko was embarrassing as well. B’s finally show a pulse and get sent to the box when Ekblad pushed him in. Fun!

 

[Ratsreign]

I couldn’t care less about the icing?

Maybe the missed one from game 2 though haha

More upset if they thought it was a dirty play on the captain, they did absolutely nothing to Bennett to respond to it.

Pasta gotta go out and fight him too? Great job boys!

Either way, can’t win a playoff game showing up for ~8minutes

Call on Lauko was embarrassing as well. B’s finally show a pulse and get sent to the box when Ekblad pushed him in. Fun!

I didn’t say you did, just replied to you because the vid clip shows it.

Yes, bad bad call on the GI

 

[PB37]

Marchand turns awkwardly causing the contact and Bennett awkward hit. Also, people are not acknowledging Marchand's fall into the boards rather heavily.

Awkward? He goes for a shoulder to shoulder. Bennett sees it coming and prepares. Up to that point, nothing was awkward about it. Marchand's body turns on body contact and the probable punch.

 

[Ugene Magic]

Awkward? He goes for a shoulder to shoulder. Bennett sees it coming and prepares. Up to that point, nothing was awkward about it. Marchand's body turns on body contact and the probable punch.

Marchand's turned it into a back shoulder-blade hit. It wasn't shoulder to shoulder squared off. He was cutting across the grain.

 

[swiftwin]

His fist definitely made contact with Marchands face.

100%. Anyone who says otherwise is in denial because they hate Marchand.

You can legitimately search YouTube for “Marchand sucker punch” and there’s at minimum 4 different legitimate sucker punches Marchand has thrown. Not this freeze frame/analyze every second garbage.

He’s a clown. I don’t feel bad.

None of them are nearly as hard as this one.