GDT: Devils vs. Flames - 9:00PM MSG+

[Csonked Out]

Forgive my ignorance but who is Johnny Hockey?

Oompa Loompa Gaudreau

 

[MadDevil]

The shootout is so random that I've given up being upset over who the coach uses. As long as it's not something as monumentally stupid as trotting Henrique and his 2 career SO goals out there, I don't really care. If we couldn't win the game in 65 minutes, we probably didn't deserve to get 2 points anyway.

 

[glenwo2]

That's Gaudreau's nickname. No idea why.

That's like that football player(Manziel, I think) who was called that nickname.

It's stupid 'cause it implies that you're a greater player than you are.

Gaudreau is okay but having that nickname doesn't really at all fit him.

 

[Bleedred]

Reminds me of when Langenbrunner had that one season where he used the same exact shootout move everytime and scored which really inflated his percentage. Then the following seasons they kept using him over and over again even though goalies had already figured him out.

I remember he was really good early on. It might not have been the first year or two of the shootout, but late last decade. Him, Parise and Zajac, were all really good in the shootout at one point. Parise might still be, I don't know if his shootout ability has dropped off, but he was over 50% for a lot of his career.

Zajac was in the 30's for shootout conversion rate at one point, though he didn't have a whole lot of opportunities. At this point, I don't think he's got a shootout goal since the recent lockout season, and I feel like he hasn't been used in one since DeBoer was still here. He might have had an opportunity under the Hydra staff in 2015, but I can't remember him going in the Hynes era.

 

[Sir Fenwick Corsi]

I'd prefer never having to see EITHER player play another game for this team, actually.

Well we do need to fill the roster so if I have to pick my poison, I’m taking BLJ ten times out of ten. Prout is literally a career penalty.

 

[Csonked Out]

As a side note, Josefson really was good at the shootout. For a guy who couldn't buy a goal, he was our only one for awhile that didn't suck at them.

 

[Bramskii]

I remember he was really good early on. It might not have been the first year or two of the shootout, but late last decade. Him, Parise and Zajac, were all really good in the shootout at one point. Parise might still be, I don't know if his shootout ability has dropped off, but he was over 50% for a lot of his career.

Zajac was in the 30's for shootout conversion rate at one point, though he didn't have a whole lot of opportunities. At this point, I don't think he's got a shootout goal since the recent lockout season, and I feel like he hasn't been used in one since DeBoer was still here. He might have had an opportunity under the Hydra staff in 2015, but I can't remember him going in the Hynes era.

I remember the one season we broke the record for most shootout wins with Kovy and Parise. It was an automatic goal from those 2 everytime. It almost never got to Patty in the 3rd spot.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Hall - Nico - Bratt is entertaining as hell, but it may be wise to spread them out while we we’re dealing with all the injuries. They are all excellent playmakers. Zacha needs some help, his linemates have been mostly trash this year. Putting him with a rusty Boyle and Hayes? What the **** is he supposed to do?

 

[Bleedred]

The shootout is so random that I've given up being upset over who the coach uses. As long as it's not something as monumentally stupid as trotting Henrique and his 2 career SO goals out there, I don't really care. If we couldn't win the game in 65 minutes, we probably didn't deserve to get 2 points anyway.

I do wonder why we lead off with Hall so much, but it's not a big deal.

I don't even think we have a guy over 30% career at this point, other than Stafford, who was actually not at 30% before this season. So it's pretty much Hall and his 25% or whatever, Stafford and guys who have only taken a couple opportunities, like Nico and Bratt. Zacha could be good, but I think he's went once before, and it wasn't pretty at all.

Even Palmieri is only like give or take 20%. He has one this year, but I think he was 1 for 7 or 8 before that.

 

[Bleedred]

I remember the one season we broke the record for most shootout wins with Kovy and Parise. It was an automatic goal from those 2 everytime. It almost never got to Patty in the 3rd spot.

Man, they were scoring so much, I remember getting mad at Parise when he actually went 4 or 5 in a row without scoring one. After scoring in all but one before that during that year.

 

[glenwo2]

In OT, I felt there was too much skating around and not enough shooting the puck at the net. Plus, Hall really should've tried dishing it off to Bratt who was at the doorstep in the closing seconds of OT.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Gaudreau is okay but having that nickname doesn't really at all fit him.

It's shorter than, "Johnny Only-has-a-career-because-the-NHL-changed-the-rules-and-is-now-for-sissies"

 

[Sir Fenwick Corsi]

In OT, I felt there was too much skating around and not enough shooting the puck at the net. Plus, Hall really should've tried dishing it off to Bratt who was at the doorstep in the closing seconds of OT.

Most overtime’s are like this now. Teams have adjusted and realized it’s better to just play keep away vs. trying to force plays that aren’t there. It’s pretty lousy.

I really think the league needs to reconsider the overtime / shootout format. It really cheapens the sport imho. Go back to ties and at least try to settle the game playing something that at least resembles the sport.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Most overtime’s are like this now. Teams have adjusted and realized it’s better to just play keep away vs. trying to force plays that aren’t there. It’s pretty lousy.

I really think the league needs to reconsider the overtime / shootout format. It really cheapens the sport imho. Go back to ties and at least try to settle the game playing something that at least resembles the sport.

Only thing the NHL could do to bastardize hockey more at this point is put windmills and clowns on the ice in OT .

 

[Bleedred]

Only thing the NHL could do to bastardize hockey more at this point is put windmills and clowns on the ice in OT .

LOL I'm picturing Happy Gilmore destroying the clown on the mini golf course, when Carl Weathers is trying to teach him how to golf and it spits the golf ball back at him after he gets it inside the the clown's mouth haha.

 

[mtnet]

Oh well, not the result we hoped for but I guess take the 3 points and look ahead to the next game. I did admire the team's resilience coming back, not bad considering the holes in what should be our usual lineup if not for the injuries.

We let the opposition operate unimpeded far too often again, blown coverage and breakdowns, plus Kinkaid has seen better days as well.

 

[zharkenby]

Really hate what I’m seeing from zacha to be honest. Is he a serviceable nhler? Sure, but for 6OA he is absolutely a Next to nothing player offensively. He hasn’t shown anything. Think there were much better options than pav at the draft, and that was contes last mistake for this team. Bratt however somewhat makes up for it

 

[Oneiro]

Were it not for the grace of a lotto ball, we'd be talking about not having a true 1C, we'd probably have a worse record and the pressure on Zacha would be insane.

I'm glad I don't exist in a timeline with that version of HF Boards.

 

[Blackjack]

Most overtime’s are like this now. Teams have adjusted and realized it’s better to just play keep away vs. trying to force plays that aren’t there. It’s pretty lousy.

I really think the league needs to reconsider the overtime / shootout format. It really cheapens the sport imho. Go back to ties and at least try to settle the game playing something that at least resembles the sport.

Nah, just have a 30 second shot clock. 3 second violation for a defender in the slot, and the goalie doesn't have a stick.

 

[R8Devs]

i wonder if Gibbons scored on the 1 on 0 Zacha set him up with or Hischier when he was in all alone on the PP if you would say the same stuff. obviously there's guys behind him in the draft that would be picked over him but he didn't pick himself. He'll have a role on this team as a middle six center/wing going forward. versatility is important

 

[EnglishDevil]

I don't really like the 3v3 overtime, it's too gimmicky (although so is the shootout).

I'd rather see 10 minutes of 4v4 before the shootout, the quality of overtime hockey was significantly better 4v4. There's just too much open ice in 3v3, it's forcing players to err too much on the side of caution and making it less exciting as a result.

4v4 was great, enough open ice to let skilled players shine but not enough to reduce things to disjointed chaos like we have currently. My only issue with 4v4 OT was that 5 minutes wasn't enough to reach a conclusion most of the time, 10 minutes 4v4 would have been a much better solution to avoiding as many shootouts without compromising the quality of play. 4v4 leads to more chances than 5v5, but it's structured enough that it feels like the winning team 'earned' their extra point. Right now having both 3v3 & the shootout makes everything past regulation feel overly gimmicky.

 

[Blackjack]

I don't really like the 3v3 overtime, it's too gimmicky (although so is the shootout).

I'd rather see 10 minutes of 4v4 before the shootout, the quality of overtime hockey was significantly better 4v4. There's just too much open ice in 3v3, it's forcing players to err too much on the side of caution and making it less exciting as a result.

4v4 was great, enough open ice to let skilled players shine but not enough to reduce things to disjointed chaos like we have currently. My only issue with 4v4 OT was that 5 minutes wasn't enough to reach a conclusion most of the time, 10 minutes 4v4 would have been a much better solution to avoiding as many shootouts without compromising the quality of play. 4v4 leads to more chances than 5v5, but it's structured enough that it feels like the winning team 'earned' their extra point. Right now having both 3v3 & the shootout makes everything past regulation feel overly gimmicky.

I actually never liked the 4 on 4 either. It felt like a less extreme version of the 3 on 3 we see now. I think the extra scoring chances came from teams knowing that they had a guaranteed point, and that the shootout was looming. I would just do 10 minutes of 5v5 with the guaranteed point, and scrap the shootout altogether. You'd see teams taking way more chances knowing that if they didn't score, they would lose the extra point.

Yeah, I know, it will never happen.

 

[MadDevil]

The theme with Zacha's career so far is inconsistency, and not just in his play. He's been moved around the lineup with various different linemates as a 19-20 year old, playing around 14-15 minutes a night, and has yet to find or be given a consistent role to play. He definitely has the skill and smarts to be a really good player, he just needs to assert them on a more consistent basis. The hard part is I don't know how you do that. Sometimes players figure it out, and sometimes they're just always enigmatic players that tease you but never fulfill their potential. I think it's still too early to tell with Zacha and we just need to be patient.

 

[Bleedred]

I’d be a lot more disappointed with Zacha if he were playing 3-4 more minutes per game and still only producing this amount, or if he were (lack of) producing at a dead Josefson level pace with the ice time he’s already getting.

 

[Emperoreddy]

With the amount of scoring we are getting from kids right now I am just not going to sweat Zacha being a bit sluggish with the points.

He is playing well and I believe the points will come for him as well.