Devils goalie dissection thread

[SteveCangialosi123]

sure. i disagree that cory should start, but your logic is certainly better.

How could you possibly think he shouldn't start?

 

[haak84]

yeah cory definitely has a right to start.

i just dont think its that out of this world to say kinkaid also has an argument to start.

 

[MartyOwns]

How could you possibly think he shouldn't start?

i can understand him starting, he's had a good couple of games. but i would prefer kinkaid start, because i have almost no confidence that cory can steal a must-win game, especially against tampa, especially on the road. that's not to say he can't win, or i don't want him to win- i just don't have confidence in him to get it done when we need it the most.

 

[Cheddabombs]

i can understand him starting, he's had a good couple of games. but i would prefer kinkaid start, because i have almost no confidence that cory can steal a must-win game, especially against tampa, especially on the road. that's not to say he can't win, or i don't want him to win- i just don't have confidence in him to get it done when we need it the most.

We needed him to play pretty well the past few games and he has a .951 save percentage. He deserves to start and he can definitely win us the game. The team needs to respond in front him and not miss 3 breakaways and score one goal.

 

[Cage Helmet]

I’m down on Schneids more than most people here, but I’m also rational enough to say that he’s earned the start tomorrow. I don’t think he’s elite or top 10 in the league or even close to it anymore. I don’t think we’re ever gonna get the Schneids we had his first three seasons here ever again, but he’s given us a chance in these games. I didn’t think the first goal the other night was great, but I can’t say it was that bad, either. Even if he were faster he still might not have gotten over in time to block it. I don’t think Kinker is to blame for the first two games, I just think this was a case of a tender that’s been playing over his head for two months catching up with him. I wouldn’t hesitate to go back to him if Schneids were struggling again, but he isn’t. I feel like there’s a few here that have a bias against him and while he isn’t good anymore, too many people feel the need to try and rewrite history by calling out his entire Devils career and blaming him for not winning enough games when we had the worst offense/worst possession teams in the history of the franchise.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I’m down on Schneids more than most people here, but I’m also rational enough to say that he’s earned the start tomorrow. I don’t think he’s elite or top 10 in the league or even close to it anymore. I don’t think we’re ever gonna get the Schneids we had his first three seasons here ever again, but he’s given us a chance in these games. I didn’t think the first goal the other night was great, but I can’t say it was that bad, either. Even if he were faster he still might not have gotten over in time to block it. I don’t think Kinker is to blame for the first two games, I just think this was a case of a tender that’s been playing over his head for two months catching up with him. I wouldn’t hesitate to go back to him if Schneids were struggling again, but he isn’t. I feel like there’s a few here that have a bias against him and while he isn’t good anymore, too many people feel the need to try and rewrite history by calling out his entire Devils career and blaming him for not winning enough games when we had the worst offense/worst possession teams in the history of the franchise.

AMEN.

 

[Emperoreddy]

But, and this is not to take anything away from Vasilevskiy, each of these results factors in the goalie *and* the shooter.

Where TBL roofed their shots, we... didn't.

Our shot placement in that game was terrible.

 

[Emperoreddy]

It is a very hypocritical stance to start using the team isn’t playing well enough for Keith excuse, when these same people out right refused to ever use that excuse for Cory even though it was perfectly valid.

You wouldn’t give Cory an inch, but are willing to give Keith a mile.

 

[glenwo2]

It is a very hypocritical stance to start using the team isn’t playing well enough for Keith excuse, when these same people out right refused to ever use that excuse for Cory even though it was perfectly valid.

You wouldn’t give Cory an inch, but are willing to give Keith a mile.

I think Cory's 0-10 stretch of "suck" colored the perceptions of him quite a bit.

 

[Camille the Eel]

I think it's beyond disingenuous to say Tampa beat us on Wednesday because Vasilevskiy outplayed Schneider. Tampa beat us on Wednesday because the Lightning outplayed the Devils and that's the bottom line.

You don’t really mean disingenuous I think. You mean it doesn’t make sense. I certainly wasn’t feigning false innocence. I take your point - they did outplay us for major stretches - but in the end Vasilevsky made a lot of very tough stops, as tough and sometimes tougher than Cory, and Cory didn’t get the one that he had to if we were to stay ahead. I thought he was slow coming across on Kucherov and was also too deep in the net. He’s often too deep in the net. It may come from not having enough confidence in his skating and athleticism to play otherwise. In other words to my eyes he made a slight mistake and it cost us a goal. Vasilevsky made no mistakes.

But your’re right. It’s a team game and we lost a close one as a team.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

so we can lock this up for the summer

right?

 

[None Shall Pass]

Make that 78 of 82. 0.951 SV%.

Back to Cory being great and the team not scoring for him.

113 of 119, which gives Cory a save percentage of 0.94957983, or in human numbers, 0.950.

 

[Bleedred]

Still not happy with his overall performance over the last two years, but the Cory of old did make a return for at least the 3.5 games he played of this series.

Anyone who cites his 1-2 record this playoffs really needs a reality check, probably in the form of electrocution. Talk about his 0-12 record to end the season if you want, but don't dare lump these 3 games into it and spin it into 1-14. These 3 games were unlike those 12 games and just shouldn't even be talked about in the same conversation. He was our best player in this series, at least in the games he played.

He was also very visibly playing injured in this game 5 and game 3, probably even game 4. His recovery time seemed to indicate that. Whenever he ended up on his back, it took a while for him to get up. It seemed like he wanted to put the team on his back these last couple games, but we got outplayed too badly.

 

[Emperoreddy]

My upside take is Kink showed he might have 1B upside, and Cory showed he still has it in him and this stretch was some mix of injury and mental stuff.

If we can roll them both as an effective tandem next year and not have to rely on someone playing 60 games we will be all the better for it

I will also not be shocked to hear he is going under the knife in a week or two.

 

[glenwo2]

Still not happy with his overall performance over the last two years, but the Cory of old did make a return for at least the 3.5 games he played of this series.

Anyone who cites his 1-2 record this playoffs really needs a reality check, probably in the form of electrocution. Talk about his 0-12 record to end the season if you want, but don't dare lump these 3 games into it and spin it into 1-14. These 3 games were unlike those 12 games and just shouldn't even be talked about in the same conversation. He was our best player in this series, at least in the games he played.

He was also very visibly playing injured in this game 5 and game 3, probably even game 4. His recovery time seemed to indicate that. Whenever he ended up on his back, it took a while for him to get up. It seemed like he wanted to put the team on his back these last couple games, but we got outplayed too badly.

All the Devils needed to do is score 3 goals total in the two games he started....and their shot at forcing a game 7 would increase dramatically.

 

[glenwo2]

(yes...Kinky did let in a bad one to Eberle but who cares? He won and that's all that matters)


BTW....RNH is a dick. Shoots the puck twice at Kinky after the save was made.

 

[glenwo2]

So Kinky with back-to-back Shutouts against Denmark and Germany :

 

[Bleedred]

It’s too bad Kinkaid doesn’t play for either a Canadian or big market time.

I can already see a CBC Hockey Night In Canada after hours segment with Scott Oake and Louis DeBrusk, where they bring in Kinkaid and Glenwo and talk about his tweet. They regularly talk about those kinds of things when they have a player on there. Maybe after one of the opening games in Sweden, since the Oilers will be playing there and they may be covering it?

It would really be sweet if they could get Snoop Dogg on there also haha.

 

[Devil X]

If Kinkaid backstops team USA to a gold do things get more serious going into next year with our goalie situation? Especially if he plays as well as he has been?

 

[bobilly45]

If Kinkaid backstops team USA to a gold do things get more serious going into next year with our goalie situation? Especially if he plays as well as he has been?

Schneider had surgery on his left hip, something with a cartlidge, recovery expected to be 5 months.
As per nhl article

Just based on that alone (forget last season) I expect kk to split 50-50 or 60-40 (with the extra games going to whoever's on a hot streak)

 

[jkrdevil]

They aren’t trading Kinkaid (although I think many here inflate his value). With the Schneider news I expect they will also sign a cheap goalie in addition as insurance.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I wonder when Schneider suffered his injury

or was it the same injury and he just played through it essentially

 

[NJDevs26]

I wonder when Schneider suffered his injury

or was it the same injury and he just played through it essentially

Well that play towards the end of Game 3 couldn’t have helped but either way yeesh, forget about dealing Keith now, we’ll likely need him in October

They aren’t trading Kinkaid (although I think many here inflate his value). With the Schneider news I expect they will also sign a cheap goalie in addition as insurance.

Laco Tacos lol...that’s about the kind of insurance you’re talking about assuming Cory only misses a couple of weeks.

 

[MartyOwns]

If Kinkaid backstops team USA to a gold do things get more serious going into next year with our goalie situation? Especially if he plays as well as he has been?

schneider's value is ridiculously low right now, and we need kinkaid...so i don't think a trade is happening

 

[OmNomNom]

sorry cory

thanks for playing how you did in playoffs