Post-Game Talk: Devils defeat Avs 4-1 : Feels Good, man
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JrFischer54
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Probably.
We used strictly adhere to a shot being a puck that would go in, which is what it's supposed to be, but most arenas are a lot more open about that.
I thinks it's league wide. Shot counts seem very elevated in general.
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There was an article in I think USA Today about players purposely trying to juice their Corsi with random shots because it's used in contract negotiations. I'll see if I can find it
In all honesty, at certain points last season, Bennett looked like he was doing that. Would see him float the puck on goal when making a line change or wrist a shot on goal for a face-off sometimes.
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That's hockey 101 though. I would always want any luck on net no matter what. But that's just me.
Zippy316
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A wrist shot with no traffic on the rush from a blue line by someone like Bennett would never go in. A guy like Palmieri trying to change the angle quickly and get a shot off through a defender is a different story. One seems like a Corsi-inflator while the other seems like a genuine attempt to score a goal.
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Yesterday I said, "did they hire the shot counter from MSG"?
There's no way there was that many legitimate shots. Bodes well for Schneider's .SVP this season.
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I'm sure any gm would do some homework on a player and not just look at his stats at face value. Only bad shot is the one not taken.
BenedictGomez
Corsi is GROSSLY overrated
The fact that that article unintentionally showed that a team with one of the worst Corsi ranks in the NHL had one the best records, and better than the top 5 Corsi scored teams, should be proof enough that it's overrated as a metric.
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I'm actually not surprised palms wasn't more injured. When I got home and saw him walking out of the ice, he turned around and took the time to mouth off to Johnson, which told me all I needed to know of the severity of his injury
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Lol. A shot on goal is never a bad play, and I highly doubt players are thinking "time to increase my Corsi!" But then again, I don't really know.
Agreed. Doesn't matter who you are, where you are on the ice, or whats in front of you when you shoot. Every puck on net is a good play. If little flips from center ice can beat a goalie, so can any player in the league one on one.
BenedictGomez
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Pretty much agree, though it might explain those times when you see a guy lightly flip a puck on goal from 100 feet out at the end of a period at 22 mph.
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I saw a tweet a few weeks ago that was pretty funny, paraphrasing:
"NHL players: Corsi is dumb
NHL players: gotta get pucks on net"
Lol
"NHL players: Corsi is dumb
NHL players: gotta get pucks on net"
Lol
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Pretty much agree, though it might explain those times when you see a guy lightly flip a puck on goal from 100 feet out at the end of a period at 22 mph.
You have a 100% better chance of scoring doing that than just holding the puck or dumping it to the corner.
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I don't know... I think that are also times when just holding on to the puck for extra second allowing your teammates to get open or just making a pass to a player in a better position is the best play -- Just like Vanek was saying in that article.
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Sorry, but that's demonstrably false. Your odds do not go from 0 to 100%
That's not what I said though. Something with any probability of happening, even if it's 1%, is 100% more likely to happen than something that has a 0% chance of happening.
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Well sure, if there is 20 or 30 seconds left. But if you get the puck with 2 seconds left in the neutral zone and just fire it on goal, I doubt you are trying to increase your Corsi. I think players do it because they think it's the best play. I find it hard to belive that players are making plays with personal stats like Corsi in mind. Maybe if they are going going for a goal or assist record or something. But, like I said, I don't really know.
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I was more or less joking.
On the other hand, you could say a .0001 % chance is *infinitely* more probable than a 0% chance so why stop at 100%
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I was more or less joking.
On the other hand, you could say a .0001 % chance is *infinitely* more probable than a 0% chance so why stop at 100%
Now that is true, but I didn't want to be too absurd
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I see no reason not to slot Wood and/or Blandisi into the lineup if one or both of Palms and Stafford are out. I'd hate to see LJ come in, have a decent game, and convince Hynes to slot him back into the regular lineup; because we know it would be smoke and mirrors.
I think the question is more, what is the best path to keeping or quickly retrieving the puck. Or keeping the opposition from quickly breaking out. Putting a week shot on net from outside the zone is basically giving the opposing goalie the puck. Certainly Marty would try to quickly turn the puck up ice.
I imagine it's fairly negligible, but I'm not sure. It might actually be a better play to dump it in the corner. Could depend on the goalie. And of coarse the position of the d-men at the time of the shot.
That said, I don't think Bennett or whomever is doing it to get their Corsi up so as to help in negotiations.
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