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I still don't get why they never tried Grabner as a RW lol
Yeah you’d think at SOME point they’d move him back to the spot he was actually productive in.
I still don't get why they never tried Grabner as a RW lol
The Grabner trade grades a D due to Hynes
I'd like to see Grabner back on the team next year. He's dangerous on the PK and fast. It's unfortunate that he slumped while coming here but he's a good player.
grabner's piss poor black hole of **** play has nothing to do with hynes
i'd like to see him back too, on a 1 year deal for the minimum allowable salary
What I said was that if the Senators package Ryan with Karlsson to DRASTICALLY reduce the value of Karlsson, Dorion is a true total idiot. I don't think he is a good GM, but Id on't think any sane person would do that, whereas you guys are talking about it as a given that it was going to happen.
That's a bad take.
Hynes has not given him the best chance to succeed with linemstes and ice time.
That's a bad take.
Hynes has not given him the best chance to succeed with linemstes and ice time.
Can we please stop crapping on Hynes or the rest of the staff, the second something doesn't go our way?
Are we expecting our coaching staff, players and Gm to be immune to any type of mistakes. If you had to analyze your own work, your boss and your colleague would probably have a list of things you're not good at, so why is it any different for the team we cheer for?
Hynes isn't perfect but he's done more good then bad since getting his job and the same can be said for Shero. The level of hate for two guys who took over a crappy situation left by Lou Lamoriello is outrageous IMO.
poor sens (literally), they have the worst owner in the leagueI agree with your statement in a vacuum, but you have to take the Melnyk factor into account here. He may force Dorion's hand, making it essentially mandatory that any Karlsson deal involves Ryan's contract in the name of shedding salary.
Is that a stupid, braindead move? Yes. But given the toxic circumstances, I don't think you can place the blame fully on Dorion.
From New Jersey's perspective, I'm not sure a discounted Karlsson is enough for me to take on Bobby Ryan's contract at full value. I don't think people understand how bad that deal really is.
Can we please stop crapping on Hynes or the rest of the staff, the second something doesn't go our way?
I agree with your statement in a vacuum, but you have to take the Melnyk factor into account here. He may force Dorion's hand, making it essentially mandatory that any Karlsson deal involves Ryan's contract in the name of shedding salary.
Is that a stupid, braindead move? Yes. But given the toxic circumstances, I don't think you can place the blame fully on Dorion.
From New Jersey's perspective, I'm not sure a discounted Karlsson is enough for me to take on Bobby Ryan's contract at full value. I don't think people understand how bad that deal really is.
I'm not one of those, I am a Skeletor supporter, but I agree he has been terrible these playoffs in terms of personnel.
With BOTH Graber and Gibbons in the lineup, I can almost guarantee the Devils are not down 3-1.
The Devils are getting absolutely SHREDDED on the penalty kill, with their two best penalty killers watching from a luxury box. That's the difference maker. Huge momentum swings. Every time a game looks okay, "it's a Lightning POWERplay GOAL!!!".
I see absolutely no rational counter-argument for having guys like Stafford or Boyle in the lineup over a Gibbons or a Grabner, and I said so BEFORE the series started.
Yeah you’d think at SOME point they’d move him back to the spot he was actually productive in.
With how much wine Shero yielded from ****ing tap water (2nd+FLA 2nd+3rd+TOR 3rd for Palmieri and Johansson, Henrique for a top-pairing defenseman, obviously Hall for Larsson), I am shocked at the outrage over losing what we did in the Grabner trade.
Shero's human. It was a calculated, educated gamble that filled a need at the time. It didn't exactly pan out. Dude's not gonna bat 1.000. Chill the hell out.
Our forwards on the PK isn't the issue... it's our **** blueline that is sinking us on the PK. The Greene-Lovejoy duo on our PK have been horrendous. I've never seen a group of guys who can't clear the puck when they actually have possession of the puck. I mean, they're NHL caliber players and they can't ice the god damn puck down the ice when they have a couple of seconds to do so?
I am pretty confident that the people saying "Bobby Ryan isn't THAT bad!!" have not watched him at all recently
he IS that bad. He can't skate and has serious hand injury problems. I would not take him over Palmieri, Bratt, or Noesen even without even taking contracts into account
Even if he's a healthy scratch for the full 82 games + the postseason, I'd still do the trade since we're getting Karlsson.
LOL... you haven't talked about EK once since the proposal was made and that to me is more of a head scratcher then Ryan's actual value.
Ughh.........
Hypothetical / fantasy trade posts are my least favorite of all HFBoards posts. Just an utter, sheer, waste of time.
And they go on FOR-EV-URRRrrrrrrrrrr......
Karlsson is a top 5 player in the NHL...what more do you want me to say about him?
You just brushing off Bobby Ryan like he doesn't absolutely suck anymore is what I take issue with. You can't just "not care" about a player with that term and money left on his contract. That absolutely 100% factors into this decision whether you choose to believe it or not.
Ughh.........
Hypothetical / fantasy trade posts are my least favorite of all HFBoards posts. Just an utter, sheer, waste of time.
And they go on FOR-EV-URRRrrrrrrrrrr......