Player Discussion David Pastrnak X
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Mainehockey33
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Heisenberg77
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Felger has a point actually. Pastrnak very often has awkward losses of balance and that's the main thing that sticks in his head. However, the tradeoff is his speed, skill and production and I'll take that tradeoff anytime.
Doesn't mean he doesn't need to improve though. The best players are (obviously) the ones that never stop improving and hopefully that's the case with Pasta. But to ignore some glaring holes in his skating game is wrong.
Doesn't mean he doesn't need to improve though. The best players are (obviously) the ones that never stop improving and hopefully that's the case with Pasta. But to ignore some glaring holes in his skating game is wrong.
Mainehockey33
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That's Felger's MO though, isn't it? I'm pretty sure he said the same things about Seguin after that trade. I don't care if Pastrnak is the goofiest skater to ever play for the Bruins as long as he keeps putting up 30+ goals and 70+ points.
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No doubt. Felger can be annoying as ****. He's a troll for sure, and loves to create takes and develop them to move the needle (Parernity Leave take). He can be so far off in his judgment of value of NHL players it's not even funny.
He's guilty of playing the radio game, but there's not many people better at what he does overall, and I respect the hell out of him.
He certainly gives Pasta his due (during the season more of course) in addition to his complaining about the skating. To his credit, it's not too much of a focal point for him, rather just a detail he mentions.
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I must have missed the comment. Felger has been pretty good on the topic but if said Pastrnak cant skate that is odd since he's a good skater,
He did ask Murray how to say Pastrnak go **** yourself in Russia
as for Pastrnak staying in Europe no big deal clearly the agent wants him over there and not saying anything and not getting the itch
He did ask Murray how to say Pastrnak go **** yourself in Russia
as for Pastrnak staying in Europe no big deal clearly the agent wants him over there and not saying anything and not getting the itch
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I enjoy Felger too- he's very talented and he's screwing around half the time I'm sure
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Jeremy Jacobs is not paying David Pastrnik a $7 M signing bonus to not play
I don't blame him although if I was 15 I would be bull **** he wont give him it
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Chose to be optimistic on the poll (which goes against my nature) and voted long term deal. All six votes logged to this point are for a long term deal actually. Don't think anyone can bear to envision the alternatives
I went trade and I'm pissed now we got his jersey- at least if he stays we will never have to pay to get a letter added since Pasta we can all agree has Z-E-R-O leadership
I think it gets nasty and they trade him to Winnipeg with a top D prospect for Connor and Trouba.
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I imagine that Bruins FO is willing to wait and see how the kids look at Big boy camp.. lots of potentials obviously...
If someone can step up, more leverage. But if not.....
Pasta and co willing to wait out training camp. He can skate and get into shape on his own in Czech..
Pasta is getting some bad advice in my opinion. Better to be here and get on with his career. Annual salary difference is large, but aren't there sponsorships and other perks that can "make him whole"??
Come on.. just get this over with and drop the puck.
If someone can step up, more leverage. But if not.....
Pasta and co willing to wait out training camp. He can skate and get into shape on his own in Czech..
Pasta is getting some bad advice in my opinion. Better to be here and get on with his career. Annual salary difference is large, but aren't there sponsorships and other perks that can "make him whole"??
Come on.. just get this over with and drop the puck.
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As far as trades go, I wonder if there's maybe some secret discussions with Colorado, circling back on Lando/Duchene.. maybe MacKinnon?
Lando + Rantanen/Jost and a pick.. wonder if that is in the realm of feasibility...
Lando + Rantanen/Jost and a pick.. wonder if that is in the realm of feasibility...
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If that's the case does it just fall back to Jacobs being cheap since the bonuses won't count against the cap?
If Pasta did end up leaving the Bruins because he was asking for ridiculous money ($8.5+) and ti doesn't make sense, that I can live with eventually. However, if it's because of something like bonuses and the team just didn't want to pay, I'm out.
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Agreed. I think it's considered part of a player's total compensation, but I may be wrong. I predict a long term deal for 7-7.5M and 7-8 years.
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They do. I think the assumed sticking point is that the Pastrnak camp may be asking for lockout protection in the contract in the form of most of the compensation in probable lockout years being in the form of a signing bonus, which gets paid even if there's a lockout. I think the implication is that Jacobs is too cheap to want to pay money to a player who is not playing (in the event of a lockout).
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It shouldn't be difficult to find some creative bonuses in the first few years. Recognize that pastrnak is a financial asset. If he brings goals, team likely wins, more business income. So give him some hard earned $$$ in the first couple years. Started at 6m per, but reality suggests the AAV needs to be somewhere in the 7+ range minimum.
So.. 8 years, 58m
Year 1: 6.75m + 2m for scoring at .25 ppg
Year 2: 6.75m + 2m signing bonus.. cause.. Pasta
Year 3: 6m
Year 4: 6.25m
Year 5: 6.5m
Year 6: 6.75m
Year 7: 7m
Year 8: 8m
Pasta exits his contract at 28 and an 8m BASE for his next contact.
Everybody wins.
Especially us.
So.. 8 years, 58m
Year 1: 6.75m + 2m for scoring at .25 ppg
Year 2: 6.75m + 2m signing bonus.. cause.. Pasta
Year 3: 6m
Year 4: 6.25m
Year 5: 6.5m
Year 6: 6.75m
Year 7: 7m
Year 8: 8m
Pasta exits his contract at 28 and an 8m BASE for his next contact.
Everybody wins.
Especially us.
They absolutely count. As well as they are guaranteed payouts even if theres a lockout.
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Few reports with a bit of mixed news. Will not be in Boston for start of camp (still in the Czech Republic) but....
From Chris Johnson of SN Via twitter:
"Chris Johnston
Chris Johnston @reporterchris
There's been a lot of dialogue between the #bruins and Pastrnak's camp in the last 24 hours. Still discussing deals of varying lengths.
1:49 PM · Sep 13, 2017"
And from Dreger via the attached link.
"Darren Dreger ✔ @DarrenDreger
No hard evidence, but a feeling something happens tonight between Bruins and Pastrnak. Obviously, camp opens so makes sense...However...
4:06 PM - Sep 13, 2"
http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2017/09/13...rt-of-bruins-camp-khl-threat-is-always-there/
Also worth keeping in mind from Prohockey:
"For Bruins fans still wringing their hands with anxiety, remember that holdouts for big name RFAs happen often. Last year, Johnny Gaudreau, Rasmus Ristolainen and Nikita Kucherov all signed just before the season began, with no ill-will between the two sides. Though Hampus Lindholm, Rickard Rakell and Jacob Trouba ended up holding out into the season, there is no reason to think Pastrnak would do the same. Instead, he’s more likely to just miss a few days of training camp before a long-term contract is announced. Dreger reports that they’ve been looking at 5-8 years, though it’s still unclear where they will land."
https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2017/09/latest-on-david-pastrnaks-contract-talks.html
From Chris Johnson of SN Via twitter:
"Chris Johnston
Chris Johnston @reporterchris
There's been a lot of dialogue between the #bruins and Pastrnak's camp in the last 24 hours. Still discussing deals of varying lengths.
1:49 PM · Sep 13, 2017"
And from Dreger via the attached link.
"Darren Dreger ✔ @DarrenDreger
No hard evidence, but a feeling something happens tonight between Bruins and Pastrnak. Obviously, camp opens so makes sense...However...
4:06 PM - Sep 13, 2"
http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2017/09/13...rt-of-bruins-camp-khl-threat-is-always-there/
Also worth keeping in mind from Prohockey:
"For Bruins fans still wringing their hands with anxiety, remember that holdouts for big name RFAs happen often. Last year, Johnny Gaudreau, Rasmus Ristolainen and Nikita Kucherov all signed just before the season began, with no ill-will between the two sides. Though Hampus Lindholm, Rickard Rakell and Jacob Trouba ended up holding out into the season, there is no reason to think Pastrnak would do the same. Instead, he’s more likely to just miss a few days of training camp before a long-term contract is announced. Dreger reports that they’ve been looking at 5-8 years, though it’s still unclear where they will land."
https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2017/09/latest-on-david-pastrnaks-contract-talks.html
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