Player Discussion David Backes II

[Kalus]

Sounds like he's slimming down, losing some mass and trying to get quicker.

That's a good move. As he is aging and losing quickness, dropping some weight will help compensate for some of that.

 

[smithformeragent]

I still have little problem with Backes on this team. Sure I wish he scored more goals last year, and maybe got paid a little less, but IMO he's the type of player that contributes more than his stat line shows.

I know some can't get past the money/term, but sometimes you overpay for intangibles.

The salary is the salary.

The term will be an absolute killer.

I just hope it doesn't cost them the ability to re-sign one of their own.

 

[Kalus]

The salary is the salary.

The term will be an absolute killer.

I just hope it doesn't cost them the ability to re-sign one of their own.

Yup. Terrible term given age/playing style.

All the 20+ prospects need new deals before Backes' deal expires.

 

[JAD]

I expect Backes to be around 50 - 55 points this year barring injury.

15 years ago I moved my family from MA to FL after living in MA 40 years. It takes about a year to learn the new area community and how things work; schools, medical, and daily routines. Not to mention it does interrupt a training routine which also takes time to readjust.

Personally I liked the Backes signing, though maybe a year too long, but I believe a team can never have too many quality character guys that understand the game and can play. This is especially important when a team, like the Bruins, is developing and breaking in so many young prospects.

 

[KrejciMVP]

We need more jerks like you and me in the HFL are you interested in coming back?

Thanks lou, not sure yet, think u need more dedicated management than me. Loved the draft though. Tried to go for a'll then top Russian players and other European countries my 1 year.

 

[pkunit]

We couldn't have found a better role model IMO. Yeah the term is long, but he's a class act who plays the right way. I think all the kids respect him but you gotta think the crop of Americans kids we've got are especially inspired by Backes. No doubt he's going to rub off on our prospects!

 

[sarge88]

Thanks lou, not sure yet, think u need more dedicated management than me. Loved the draft though. Tried to go for a'll then top Russian players and other European countries my 1 year.

I'm looking for a partner.

Don't know the SIM stuff very well, but like the team managing part.

PM me interested.

 

[ODAAT]

The salary is the salary.

The term will be an absolute killer.

I just hope it doesn't cost them the ability to re-sign one of their own.

I wasn`t/am not a massive fan of the term either however I don`t worry nearly as much as some about it TBH. in 19/20 he`ll have to submit a limited list of teams he`d move to then the following (last year of contract) it`ll expand to 15.

Now, who knows if those 8/15 teams want a guy on the back nine of his career but we`ve seen all kinds of contracts moved I never thought would, he** Savard, Horty, Clarkson are just some examples of teams that have taken on their contracts and they no longer could play

 

[DominicT]

I wasn`t/am not a massive fan of the term either however I don`t worry nearly as much as some about it TBH. in 19/20 he`ll have to submit a limited list of teams he`d move to then the following (last year of contract) it`ll expand to 15.

Now, who knows if those 8/15 teams want a guy on the back nine of his career but we`ve seen all kinds of contracts moved I never thought would, he** Savard, Horty, Clarkson are just some examples of teams that have taken on their contracts and they no longer could play

I always find it interesting when people talk about moving a contract and comparing it to players like this. The guys you mentioned are injured and will never play again and there is a key difference in moving those contracts as opposed to a healthy player with a "bad contract."

Generally, players like those you mentioned are moved for other reasons than the obvious cap implications, because, they can LTIR those players and exceed the cap by those dollars if they are willing to spend the dollars. But their dollars are paid by insurance anyway, so the teams aren't spending extra regardless.

I'll use Savard as an example. Articles like this http://www.thehockeynews.com/rumors/article/rumor-roundup-could-the-boston-bruins-trade-marc-savard are such a crock because, since Savard was paid by insurance, he did not "cash strap the Bruins." What was more likely is that with a new contract coming that summer to Torey Krug, they needed an insurance spot under the league insurance to insure his upcoming contract.

 

[Absurdity]

 

[BNHL]

Was this last year or something new?

 

[PB37]

Was this last year or something new?

It's new. It's probably going to be based on how Spooner performs or how a kid like JFK looks in camp.

 

[Salem13]

Was reading the most hated players thread on the main boards and Backes was giving Marchand a minor challenge?

 

[Kalus]

Was reading the most hated players thread on the main boards and Backes was giving Marchand a minor challenge?

Spot picking fights doesn't endear a guy to his NHLPA brethren.

 

[C77]

I would like Backes at center. Problem is who plays right wing?

We need at least someone with size and jam at that position....and someone to get in on the forecheck and cause mayhem.

Anybody think Acciari could play a bit of RW? Of course not 2nd line minutes.

Put Backes at center and trade Spooner for a tough SOB at right wing....now that's a plan!

 

[bob27]

I think he should play with Spooner. Take faceoffs, help in defensively and such.

 

[BNHL]

I would like Backes at center. Problem is who plays right wing?

We need at least someone with size and jam at that position....and someone to get in on the forecheck and cause mayhem.

Anybody think Acciari could play a bit of RW? Of course not 2nd line minutes.

Put Backes at center and trade Spooner for a tough SOB at right wing....now that's a plan!

This was the mistake from the get go,letting a right wing walk and signing a center for nearly the same. 2 years later and we're still short that winger.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

I always find it interesting when people talk about moving a contract and comparing it to players like this. The guys you mentioned are injured and will never play again and there is a key difference in moving those contracts as opposed to a healthy player with a "bad contract."

Generally, players like those you mentioned are moved for other reasons than the obvious cap implications, because, they can LTIR those players and exceed the cap by those dollars if they are willing to spend the dollars. But their dollars are paid by insurance anyway, so the teams aren't spending extra regardless.

I'll use Savard as an example. Articles like this http://www.thehockeynews.com/rumors/article/rumor-roundup-could-the-boston-bruins-trade-marc-savard are such a crock because, since Savard was paid by insurance, he did not "cash strap the Bruins." What was more likely is that with a new contract coming that summer to Torey Krug, they needed an insurance spot under the league insurance to insure his upcoming contract.

using ltir is a tricky proposition for teams close to the cap

use toronto for our example. their current cap hit is almost 80 mill... but they have horton and lupul on ltir

ltir as you know counts against the cap. toronto WILL USE EVERY SINGLE PENNY OF THEIR ALLOWED CAP

i wont worry if hortons deal is insured... toronto can afford to pay

where the problem arises is toronto has 3.7 overage bonus risk. this year toronto is already being punished 5.37 mill

this is real caproom that you lose in the future because you had ltir in the past

 

[pkunit]

I think he should play with Spooner. Take faceoffs, help in defensively and such.

Makes sense to me.

 

[ODAAT]

I think he should play with Spooner. Take faceoffs, help in defensively and such.

should take faceoffs, then as soon as the puck is heading into the opponents end, shift with Spoons to work the wall, once that puck comes back into the B`s zone, immediately switch back to C

 

[Fenway]

David Backes has been diagnosed with diverticulitis and has been undergoing treatment at MGH by Team Internist, Doctor David Finn. Backes will be re-evaluated in approximately two weeks but is expected to be out for at least three to four weeks.

 

[KrejciMVP]

Sigh. Go Krejci

 

[Over the volcano]

David Backes has been diagnosed with diverticulitis and has been undergoing treatment at MGH by Team Internist, Doctor David Finn. Backes will be re-evaluated in approximately two weeks but is expected to be out for at least three to four weeks.

That’s a tough hit - here’s to a quick recovery.

 

[Square Hammer*]

Sigh. Go Krejci

What an odd thing to post in a thread about Backes.

 

[TheReal13Linseman]

Diver frickin ticultis?????!!!

Don't like only 80 year olds get that...

Oh wait, nvm