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CP: Hawks to take either Turris, Kane or Van Riemsdyk at No. 1

PuckheadMcGillycuddy

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ANAHEIM, Calif. (CP) - The Chicago Blackhawks have zeroed in on three players as they prepare to make the first overall selection in the 2007 NHL entry draft in just over three weeks.

It appears either Kyle Turris, Patrick Kane or James vanRiemsdyk, the top three ranked North American skaters by NHL Central Scouting, will slip on a Blackhawks sweater June 22 in Columbus, Ohio.

''Those are the three guys we're looking at,'' Hawks GM Dale Tallon told The Canadian Press in a phone interview Wednesday.

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ANAHEIM, Calif. (CP) - The Chicago Blackhawks have zeroed in on three players as they prepare to make the first overall selection in the 2007 NHL entry draft in just over three weeks.

It appears either Kyle Turris, Patrick Kane or James vanRiemsdyk, the top three ranked North American skaters by NHL Central Scouting, will slip on a Blackhawks sweater June 22 in Columbus, Ohio.

''Those are the three guys we're looking at,'' Hawks GM Dale Tallon told The Canadian Press in a phone interview Wednesday.

Full story at

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=209363&hubname=nhl
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They can't really lose with any of them. Turris might give them a Thorton/Marleau one/two center situation with Toews in a few years. Whereas the other two would be dymanic with Toews on the #1 line. JVR really impressed me as a potential franchise type power forward at the World U18. Kane is an offensive dynamo.

I don't think there is a huge difference between the 3.
 
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Toews is touted as a 2 way player, not to mention there are tons of lines that aren't particularity strong defensively (Alfredsson, Spezza, Heatley)
 
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Toews is touted as a 2 way player so less :biglaugh: and more :shakehead
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OK in 20 he will attack, defend, play PPs ...

All three are excellent players, but they can't play next season in one line if you want some succes!

Maybe 3 or 4 years later :teach:
 
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he is one of the best two-way prospects in the world right now.
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I agree, I like Toews :teach: but he is still young, he must be stronger, older .. he must have more experience if you want let him play as center in the line between havlat and Kane


all three are able to have many, many points if they will play together next season, but they will have -30 in +/-
 
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They could be in the negative numbers in +/-, but in return they will rescue a horrible PP (where +/- doesn't count). Anyone watching Toews at the WHC saw his PP skills against NHL competition - he will fit in right away. The wear and tear of 82 games will affect this line more than anything else.... sorry, 40 games for Havlat.
 

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Aside from Kane's terrible defensive weaknesses that must be covered for on any line he plays for --the bigger issue could be which wing would Kane play? Maybe its no big deal--but he played most of the year in London at RW...they are paying Havlat $6million a year as the go to RW in Chicago's #1 line--so I doubt its Havlat who moves to LW just to make way for Kanne--rather the other way around...WIL KANE BE "comfortable "at LW? He did play some shifts at times there-BUT if he "feels better" playing RW--this could be a problem IF they intend on creating a KANE TOEWS HAVLAT #1line...but perhaps it is no big deal for Kane-I don't know...


IF however ,Kane's defensive flaws without the puck cause both Toews and Havlat to be more "concerned" about covering up for Kane--then this by its very nature is going to hamper the offensive attack from the line as 2/3 of it will "hold back" worrying about giving up transitions with liitle back-checking from the Lw spot...THIS COULD WRECK the hoped for "clicking' of such a line--we just don't knowhw this plays out THEHIS YEAR as no way Kane is good enough defensively for lots of minutes in the NHL --a wiser view might be to use Kane as a PP specialist,limit his 5x5 minutes to 4th line duty as they ease him in to an NHL -level defensive responsibility (assuming Kane can learn and ever be good enough for lots of minutes defensively).


IF however they opt for JVR ,you solve both problems (natural LW,and though he needs to improve his defense too,it is by far much better than Kane's at this stage,plus he'll get a year or two in the NCAA to improve on it).


IF they opt for Turris--you don't worry about any #1 draftee filling out a line with Toews and Havlat--rather you arestructuring for 2 solid lines with 2 terrific centres
(down the line as you have to wait at least 2 years forTurris to fill out at Wisconsin).


IF they delay insertion of the #1 (ie. take Turris or JVR) --that gives them $3million of additional Cap room THIS YEAR ,to use to acquire a #1 line veteran LW for the spot OR towards re-signing Handzus --in which case TOEWS might only be centering line #2 to start...


there are lots of considerations here..and of course Tallon might also trade the pick down if PHI or pHX want to move up...
 

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Personally, I would take JVR over Kane...& Turris wouldn't even make my top 5...sixth probably...Turris is too damn skinny...To me, JVR was head n shoulders above Turris at the U18's....JVR's Big/Fast/Strong/Talented...Got can't miss/ NHL ready written all over him... Can somebody please explain to me why so many scouts have Turris ranked above JVR ???

I JUST DON'T GET IT ?
 

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Am i the only one who thinks JRV shouldn't be going #1? I mean, as of now Kane is the better prospect, and he probably has more offensive upside longterm. I really like JVR as a prospect and wouldn't mind the Panthers trading up a few spots to get him, but surely he shouldn't go above Voracek and Kane? The Russian transfer agreement apart, Cherepanov is also a better prospect, but i know the Hawks recent european prospects adventures didn't go very well.
 
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I personally think Turris is better then Kane as a prospect and, as such, I hope Chi takes Turris 1st and that Philly takes Kane 2nd.
 
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Personally, I would take JVR over Kane...& Turris wouldn't even make my top 5...sixth probably...Turris is too damn skinny...To me, JVR was head n shoulders above Turris at the U18's....JVR's Big/Fast/Strong/Talented...Got can't miss/ NHL ready written all over him... Can somebody please explain to me why so many scouts have Turris ranked above JVR ???

I JUST DON'T GET IT ?
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It's called, he's still young and will put on more weight. You think he's gonna be 165lbs his entire life?
 

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Am i the only one who thinks JRV shouldn't be going #1?
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Didn't I just say that ? Though not in so many words ? Damn I was in a hurry & miscontrued ur post to mean...Shouldn't JVR go #1 ? ....For me, JVR should be #1 !

It's called, he's still young and will put on more weight. You think he's gonna be 165lbs his entire life?
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Hmmm...He looks like one of those Miller type kids to me...so yeah , I can't see him packing on a whole lotta muscle...His body type looks all wrong...

The other thing to me, is that JVR is already Bigger ( and always will be ) ...Stronger ( and always will be )....Faster ( and always will be )...and at a bare minimum equally talented ( I would say more )

So kindly give me more tangible arguments than just Turris is gonna pack on a few pounds ( * whoops* )...So What ? ..I Still Don't Get it...What makes Turris look better than JVR to so many Scouts ????
 
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It's called, he's still young and will put on more weight. You think he's gonna be 165lbs his entire life?
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Exactly... Look at Lecavalier's size when he got drafted and look at him now. It's called "WORKING OUT" !!!

P.S. I'm not compairing both players at all here
 
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