Corey Perry HHOF?
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Sojourn
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Not without a stronger finish than he’s currently putting up.
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If he is productive another 3-4 years, he may well be. If he has another season like last year, and doesn't rebound, probably not.
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Great player for a few years; but was it long enough to be HOF?
He was lights out (or red light on) during his prime though; wasn't he Regal?
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For a guy who won a Hart Trophy, I'm actually not too high on him. I think Getzlaf is the better player on the same team. For me, the answer is no.
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Hell no....I can't believe he won the Hart...he had a couple good seasons..that's it.
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I agree with you guys that he needs to pick it up again but -
He'll get in. I agree Getzlaf is the better player but Perry has the better Hall resume.
Not just the Hart trophy, but all the other team accomplishments as he's won everything out there.
I'll miss a few players for sure but look at his contemporaries - drafted from '99 - '06 - whom he will be up against. 7 years of inductions.
Keith, Bergeron, Ovechkin, Malkin, Crosby, Toews, Are probably the only 6 locks at the moment.
then you're looking at Heatley, J. Williams, Spezza, R. Nash, Getzlaf, Weber, E. Staal, J. Carter, Fleury, Parise, Kopitar, Backstrom, Kessel - there's definitely a few more in this tier.
(not sure what they'll do with Kovalchuk?)
Unless you can find enough guys on that second list with better resumes - odds are he'll be inducted.
He'll get in. I agree Getzlaf is the better player but Perry has the better Hall resume.
Not just the Hart trophy, but all the other team accomplishments as he's won everything out there.
I'll miss a few players for sure but look at his contemporaries - drafted from '99 - '06 - whom he will be up against. 7 years of inductions.
Keith, Bergeron, Ovechkin, Malkin, Crosby, Toews, Are probably the only 6 locks at the moment.
then you're looking at Heatley, J. Williams, Spezza, R. Nash, Getzlaf, Weber, E. Staal, J. Carter, Fleury, Parise, Kopitar, Backstrom, Kessel - there's definitely a few more in this tier.
(not sure what they'll do with Kovalchuk?)
Unless you can find enough guys on that second list with better resumes - odds are he'll be inducted.
GlitchMarner
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Are we going to assess his chances based on what the actual standard for HHOF induction is (ie take into account that the HHOF has players like Dick Duff and Clark Gillies as members) or pretend as if a player has to have an Yzerman or Messier level career to stand a chance?
If the former is the case, he absolutely has a shot. Like Nash, he still has some work to do. However, his Hart-winning season puts him above Nash in the pecking order. Nash seems like much more of a long-shot at this point.
I made a post where I outlined how many more points certain players who are among the top 50 active points leaders needed to reach 1000...
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threa...u-place-the-50-active-points-leaders.2395167/
"Corey Perry has two top ten points finishes (third and fifth) and five top ten goals finishes. He won the Hart and Rocket Richard trophies in '11. He won a Cup in '07 and has 89 playoff points and four playoff OT winners.
He needs to average 56 points per season for five seasons to reach the 1000 point mark. He will turn 33 after this season.
Corey Perry will make the Hall of Fame without question if he reaches 1000 career points. He may get in with 900+."
If the former is the case, he absolutely has a shot. Like Nash, he still has some work to do. However, his Hart-winning season puts him above Nash in the pecking order. Nash seems like much more of a long-shot at this point.
I made a post where I outlined how many more points certain players who are among the top 50 active points leaders needed to reach 1000...
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threa...u-place-the-50-active-points-leaders.2395167/
"Corey Perry has two top ten points finishes (third and fifth) and five top ten goals finishes. He won the Hart and Rocket Richard trophies in '11. He won a Cup in '07 and has 89 playoff points and four playoff OT winners.
He needs to average 56 points per season for five seasons to reach the 1000 point mark. He will turn 33 after this season.
Corey Perry will make the Hall of Fame without question if he reaches 1000 career points. He may get in with 900+."
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GlitchMarner
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Except check this out...
Top five points finishes:
Corey Perry: 2
The following Hockey Hall of Fame members...
Joe Mullen: 0
Pat LaFontaine: 1
Lanny McDonald: 0
Clark Gillies: 0
Cam Neely: 0
Top ten goals finishes:
Corey Perry: 5
The following Hockey Hall of Fame members...
Joe Mullen: 3
Pat LaFontaine: 2
Lanny McDonald: 4
Clark Gillies: 0
Cam Neely: 4
Career points:
Joe Mullen: 1063
Pat LaFontaine: 1013
Lanny McDonald: 1006
Corey Perry: 721
Gillies: 697
Neely: 694
Era-adjusted point totals:
Joe Mullen: 918
Pat LaFontaine: 902
Lanny McDonald: 836
Corey Perry: 804 (prior to this season)
Cam Neely: 629
Clark Gillies: 575
Perry's won his Cup and has won his awards. He has plenty of finishes in the top ten for goals and more finishes in the top five for points than some Hall of Fame members. He merely needs to pad his stats and he'll be indicted into the HHOF. He has already surpassed the careers of Cam Neely and Clark Gillies (mind you, Gillies is an absolutely atrocious inductee).
If Perry averages merely 45 points during the remainder of this season and then for the next three seasons, he'll hit 900 career points, which would put him above Lanny McDonald, Pat LaFontaine and Joe Mullen on an adjusted points scale.
I don't recall ever saying this in response to one of these threads asking if a player will/may be inducted into the HHOF, but in this case, Perry is going to get into the Hockey Hall of Fame whether people like the idea or not.
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GlitchMarner
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As recently as 2014, he finished fifth in the entire NHL in points.
In 2015, he scored 33 goals in only 67 games (a 40 goal pace per 82 games) and finished tenth in the Rocket Richard race.
He had 62 points in '16, including 34 goals. He finished ninth in the League in goals that season.
GlitchMarner
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That's because a lot of people think being a HHOF member means being Sidney Crosby or Alex Ovechkin or scoring like career 1500 points and don't consider era. Zetterberg will get in. Perry will as well. Perry won't even be a weak inductee with a decent finish to his career. Do you really think any of LaFontaine, Mullen, McDonald, Gillies or Neely will have had better careers than Perry if Perry hits 900 career points?
He peaked higher than guys like Dave Andreychuk, Mike Gartner, Dino Ciccarelli.
Was Joe Nieuwendyk really better than Perry? Was Glen Anderson? Bernie Federko?
He'd be a fairly standard inductee.
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I find it strange with how amazing that 'O3 draft was,
Nicely put together. To go along with winning two major awards - He's also won the Memorial, World Juniors, World Championship, Stanley Cup, Olympic Golds, WCOH Gold (World Cup?)
How many players with two major awards aren't in the Hall? (Thomas has three - but was a short career)
I find it interesting that despite the '03 draft being amazing (although it let up in a hurry) - there's only a few HOF candidates.
Bergeron will get in. Next is probably Perry. Then Getzlaf and Weber - E. Staal? If J. Carter and Fleury can keep compiling.
Nicely put together. To go along with winning two major awards - He's also won the Memorial, World Juniors, World Championship, Stanley Cup, Olympic Golds, WCOH Gold (World Cup?)
How many players with two major awards aren't in the Hall? (Thomas has three - but was a short career)
I find it interesting that despite the '03 draft being amazing (although it let up in a hurry) - there's only a few HOF candidates.
Bergeron will get in. Next is probably Perry. Then Getzlaf and Weber - E. Staal? If J. Carter and Fleury can keep compiling.
GlitchMarner
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The facts won't sway people's warped notions of what constitutes a HHOF'er, though. Just look at the voting results for the poll. Brutal.
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I would argue Weber is a lock at this point.
Fleury has 0 chance of getting in, unless Osgood gets in.
i was just having a discussion about this with my brother yesterday. imo he isn't a hall of famer
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He'll make it.
Living in a market like Ottawa I can tell you how this goes:
"So, Player X Hall of Fame? Has Y points and a Hart."
"STANLEY CUP! TWO OLYMPICS! Z GOALS SCORED IN A SEASON!"
"Yeah, I think he's a lock for sure. Donuts?"
Remember that media is very reactionary, very emotion-driven and has a huge recency bias.
Perry will get it in, the standard isn't high enough for this Hall and he's a good Canadian guy on top of it.
Living in a market like Ottawa I can tell you how this goes:
"So, Player X Hall of Fame? Has Y points and a Hart."
"STANLEY CUP! TWO OLYMPICS! Z GOALS SCORED IN A SEASON!"
"Yeah, I think he's a lock for sure. Donuts?"
Remember that media is very reactionary, very emotion-driven and has a huge recency bias.
Perry will get it in, the standard isn't high enough for this Hall and he's a good Canadian guy on top of it.
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