hawksfan50
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Basically under the old CBA they awarded comp picks for loss of Group III free agents (The last comp picks for such Group III's lost were awarded in the 2005 draft for such Group III's lost between july1st 2004 and Sept 15th 2004) + the old CBA also awarded comp picks for ANY drafted player who was not signed --you got the comp pick one round later in the same slot# of the round as he ws drafted--I guess if you lost one drafted in the final round a comp pick would be added at the end of the round)--but in any case --UNDER THE NEW CBA: THE ONLY COMP PICKS OF ANY KIND ARE AWARDED FOR ONLY UNSIGNED FIRST ROUND PICKS whose rights are now lost --you get the comp for that in round two in the same number position of that round as the draftee was picked 2 years prior in round one....so we come to the question: DOES the new comp picks rule limited to only loss of 1st rounders who didn't sign apply ALSO to the 2004 draft class OR NOT? Since the application of the old Group III free agent loss comp pick rule was not abolished immmediately but was still retroactive in 2005 to Group II's lost in july1-sep 15,2004,it WOULD SEEM IN FARINESS TO THE SAME PRINCIPLE that the "OLD COMP RULES" would still apply one last time to unsigned draftees from 2004....but as of yet this has not been stated with definite certainty...if the old comp rules apply to the 2004 draft class--THEN it means comps will still be awarded for any unsigned draftees from that class IN ANY ROUND...
THIS then mucks up alot of the mock drafts --because it means teams will be drafting a few spots later in rounds 3-7 in addition to any comp picks given in round two to first rounders of '04 who did not sign...
It would mean for example--that CHICAGO would get a comp pick in round 3 at #75
overall for the loss of Ryan Garlock who was taken #45 in round 2 of 2004...they would get another comp pick in round 5 for the loss of Mitch Maunu in the apprropriate slot (he was picked in round 4 of '04 and unsigned) plus another comp pick in round 6 in the appropriate slot for the loss of Trevor Kell (a 5th rounder from'04 who was unsigned)...
THUS --IF the old comp rules apoly 1 last time to the '04 class,the Blackhawks will get 3 more picks than their current scheduled 10 before any comp picks...
AS the Hawks have no third rounder this year that #75 is very important...also as they have none in round 5 the comp pick there is nice...they already have 2 6th rounders so the extra one there is not essential--but still nice...
HOWEVER--the language which the NHL uses to explain the comp system under the NEW CBA uses the term "going forward" (from 2005) to restrict comps ONLY to the loss of 1st rounders--the issue then is still a bit ambiguous as to whether that applies to the 2005 draft class on OR is applicable immmediately and includes the 2004 class in the NEW rules for Comp picks ....fairness would seem to apply the OLD comp rule to the 2004 draft since that was before the new CBA--but one never knows how the lawyers interpret the ambiguous language that may be in the CBA..
Hopefully the NHL can clarify this issue well before the draft.
THIS then mucks up alot of the mock drafts --because it means teams will be drafting a few spots later in rounds 3-7 in addition to any comp picks given in round two to first rounders of '04 who did not sign...
It would mean for example--that CHICAGO would get a comp pick in round 3 at #75
overall for the loss of Ryan Garlock who was taken #45 in round 2 of 2004...they would get another comp pick in round 5 for the loss of Mitch Maunu in the apprropriate slot (he was picked in round 4 of '04 and unsigned) plus another comp pick in round 6 in the appropriate slot for the loss of Trevor Kell (a 5th rounder from'04 who was unsigned)...
THUS --IF the old comp rules apoly 1 last time to the '04 class,the Blackhawks will get 3 more picks than their current scheduled 10 before any comp picks...
AS the Hawks have no third rounder this year that #75 is very important...also as they have none in round 5 the comp pick there is nice...they already have 2 6th rounders so the extra one there is not essential--but still nice...
HOWEVER--the language which the NHL uses to explain the comp system under the NEW CBA uses the term "going forward" (from 2005) to restrict comps ONLY to the loss of 1st rounders--the issue then is still a bit ambiguous as to whether that applies to the 2005 draft class on OR is applicable immmediately and includes the 2004 class in the NEW rules for Comp picks ....fairness would seem to apply the OLD comp rule to the 2004 draft since that was before the new CBA--but one never knows how the lawyers interpret the ambiguous language that may be in the CBA..
Hopefully the NHL can clarify this issue well before the draft.
