Confirmed: Talks starting back to Sqaure 1 - 90 Minute Meeting Completed

[Mess]

Always the master of the half quote to skew meaning.

Just once try and present an honest representation.

Here is THE ENTIRE QUOTE from Saskin.



Changes the meaning more than just a little bit, wouldn't you say?

Sorry I picked that bad habit from Bettman of only telling 1/2 the story to mislead everyone ..


..but I posted the link so that you could read it for yourself .. I didn't want to get into any copyright infringement issues by posting too much of an article after all ..

For some of us though the last part was implied .. Not too many people actually thought it meant going back and resubmitting things and ideas that didn't work previously ..

That is what I meant by IMPASSE dance and clean slate ..

 

[CMUMike]

Always the master of the half quote to skew meaning.

Just once try and present an honest representation.

Here is THE ENTIRE QUOTE from Saskin.



Changes the meaning more than just a little bit, wouldn't you say?

 

[Motown Beatdown]

The Fan 590 reports that the meeting started around noon EST. That's all so far.

God forbid they get up early. Guess Bob, Gary, Bill and Ted needed their beauty sleep.

 

[MissTeeks]

The Fan 590 reports that the meeting started around noon EST. That's all so far.

TSN

TSN says that the meeting was only an hour and a half but they are supposed to be meeting again sometime next week.

Thanks for coming out boys!

 

[FLYLine27*]

Good work..a 90 minute meeting. I see they are working very hard in giving the fans a season next year.

 

[ColoradoHockeyFan]

TSN

TSN says that the meeting was only an hour and a half but they are supposed to be meeting again sometime next week.

Thanks for coming out boys!

Good grief. Why even bother to physically meet together in Toronto? Seriously, should we even bother to view these as anything more than a legal paper trail at this point?

 

[X0ssbar]

Good grief. Why even bother to physically meet together in Toronto? Seriously, should we even bother to view these as anything more than a legal paper trail at this point?

Exaclty - just declare and impasse and get it over with.

 

[Motown Beatdown]

If worked as hard as these guy i would be fired.

 

[chiavsfan]

Honestly what did you guys expect? For them to walk into the room and finish everything right away? They probably updated each other on how they feel, now its back to seperate corners to see where they could go from here. Anyway who had any hope that this meeting was going to go somewhere is fooling themselves. The best thing that came out of this is that there ARE future talks scheduled.

 

[Mess]

If worked as hard as these guy i would be fired.

What you guys expect .. They say they are starting from a clean slate ..

This was just a introduction meeting so everyone could get acquainted .. Lets call is a mixer if you like ..

They had a Wine a Cheese snack table and everybody got the handouts of "CBA for DUMMIES" and "12 Steps to Negotiating" ..... and was asked to read chapters 1 -3 for the next meeting and have a POP quiz on some of the terminology like Cost Certainty and Fair Market place ..

 

[trahans99]

Atleast there meeting again. Do you actually think they will have a deal done in a week or even a proposal?

They are going to meet a few times and have "dialogue" before either side makes a proposal... and then there will be a few proposals before they get a deal.

Its good news there meeting next week, its better than both sides saying we want a linkage and we won't take a cap

 

[OilKiller]

Its good news there meeting next week, its better than both sides saying we want a linkage and we won't take a cap

Exactly.

Meetings = Good
No Meetings = Bad & No Deal.

 

[ColoradoHockeyFan]

Honestly what did you guys expect?

Phone call/email/fax exchange?

 

[Leafer4Life]

Thanks for the update. At least they said that they have future talks planned........

 

[HAWKSWINHAWKSWIN]

Exactly.

Meetings = Good
No Meetings = Bad & No Deal.

except that last time around,

Meetings = Bad & No Deal

I would hope that things would be a little different this time around. I like what MacKenzie said one night on TSN (sorry - don't have the exact quote) but it was something to the effect that they should get a couple of GM's and a couple of player agents in the room and they could probably hash something out in a week or two that would be aceptable to both sides.

To me, it seems that Bettman and Goodenow always were more of a hinderance than a help in this whole mess.

 

[ColoradoHockeyFan]

A few additional quotes here in the AP story:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2010543

 

[c-carp]

I dont mind them starting at square one as long as they keep talking and are serious this time and dont **** around and wait until the last minute.

 

[chiavsfan]

Goodenow almost sounded like he had changed his tine a little bit until this comment...he was sooooooooooooo close...but alas

''Where we are today is a continuance of an unfortunate situation that the owners have put in place with their lockout and we have been and remain committed to try and find a fair negotiated solution to it. And I would like to think that the other side is as well. So hopefully we'll make some progress.''

He is still whining like a 2 year old.

TSN

 

[misterjaggers]

I dont mind them starting at square one as long as they keep talking and are serious this time and dont **** around and wait until the last minute.

But that's dead-line hunter Bob's favorite tactic. Oh, well...

 

[VAN-HAB]

What you guys expect .. They say they are starting from a clean slate ..

This was just a introduction meeting so everyone could get acquainted .. Lets call is a mixer if you like ..

They had a Wine a Cheese snack table and everybody got the handouts of "CBA for DUMMIES" and "12 Steps to Negotiating" ..... and was asked to read chapters 1 -3 for the next meeting and have a POP quiz on some of the terminology like Cost Certainty and Fair Market place ..

 

[OilKiller]

except that last time around,

Meetings = Bad & No Deal

Fact is, you cannot get a deal done without meetings. It's just that simple. More meetings = possible deal.

 

[mr gib]

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=117970&hubName=nhl

i just wanted to add something - from a totally neutral perspective for a change - if you guys thought this lockout was a joke wait till you here this - it's the nhlpa's 2 mil that the wha is awarding for this tourney - read into that what you will - bob and gary have jumped off the cliff - pa took back the 24 percent and the nhl tossed back linkage - it's suicide ladies - a fight to oblivion -

 

[X8oD]

i just wanted to add something - from a totally neutral perspective for a change - if you guys thought this lockout was a joke wait till you here this - it's the nhlpa's 2 mil that the wha is awarding for this tourney - read into that what you will - bob and gary have jumped off the cliff - pa took back the 24 percent and the nhl tossed back linkage - it's suicide ladies - a fight to oblivion -

So the NHLPA is taking money from its own players pockets, and giving it back.... To the players? And sicne each player owes portions of its earnings to the NHLPA, how much money does the NHLPA get back when the winnings are paid out?

 

[mr gib]

So the NHLPA is taking money from its own players pockets, and giving it back.... To the players? And sicne each player owes portions of its earnings to the NHLPA, how much money does the NHLPA get back when the winnings are paid out?

i don't think the pa is collecting dues right now - but i don't really know but it seems unlikely - cause of the 10 k a month - but this is getting just stoopid - but you've got to figure if the pa is really that crazed on busting the owners and vice versa crosby is gonna be a huge pawn - the wha could get him or the rooskies for big clams - way more that the 850k - gary wants him to have - this really is war - holy crap - i never thought the hatred was this deep - wow -

 

[SENSible1*]

i just wanted to add something - from a totally neutral perspective for a change - if you guys thought this lockout was a joke wait till you here this - it's the nhlpa's 2 mil that the wha is awarding for this tourney - read into that what you will - bob and gary have jumped off the cliff - pa took back the 24 percent and the nhl tossed back linkage - it's suicide ladies - a fight to oblivion -

Does using money to help set up a competitors league constitute bargaining in bad faith?